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Sure, but its not bold enough
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Yea, that's why I just keep them all and see what happens. But if I'm trading one (just to clear a spot)it's gonna be the one who's over 30 and only has 3 years left and has pretty much proven he is what he is. The others have 6-7 years left and have the upside to be more than a borderline starter type. Of course, I do expect 1-2 to flop as well though to be less than what Taylor has become. Taylor is just such a steady reliable vet to have on the roster as all these young guys get their feet wet. And again, Wiemer has no business in MLB right now so I don't see the roster crunch issue people are worried about. As of now anyway, we'll see what trades happen. But like most here I'd assume one of the young OFs is who would be traded in a move for say some kind of proven corner IF type.
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If they make a move for an established MLB player in a trade then sure using one of the young guys makes sense since the other team needs to be given something of value. Otherwise, I don't see the need to trade them in order to clear a jam. Literally 0 of these guys have proven anything at the MLB level. The chances of them all being good starter level guys is very low. The chances of one or more being injured at any given time is high. Yelich should be moved to DH anyway most days. Wiemer should be in AAA to start the year anyway as he was completely overwhelmed at the plate. They all have options left. No rush IMO to make a decision on these guys, see how the year plays out. If your hand does get forced Taylor is the one to go. Sure he's the only one who's proven anything but he's also more money and only has I think 3 years left. Trade him for a lottery ticket or two if needed, hold onto the young guys and see which ones pan out.
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For sure. I think everyone has to go into this year with realistic expectations. Basically just be a competent starter this year at such a young age is all I'm expecting, anything more is a bonus. We should not go into it expecting he's young Trout immediately.
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Yea it ended up better than I thought after reading the estimates in here in the 100-150 mil range. Add in that it can get to 10 years if he's good and its much better than I thought. Seems like a no-brainer to me. Now just have to fend off the pessimism that creeps in any brewers fans head
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In regards to Huira comp or really any other prospect they've had is the age difference. A normal guy comes up in the age 22/23 area. You control them until they're 30ish. Which is right when you get into the decline issues and if you really want to be paying them big money. This guy seems like he'll be up at age 20, so he could leave at 27/28ish or you're trading him at 25/26 in what should be prime window. Normal aged guys who get traded at 29/30ish (though ideally you'd want 1-2 more years usually) you're likely selling them right before they fall off and or the cost/reward balance flips in the wrong direction. Just saying its a bit different to be trading right at heart of prime rather than at the end. In addition, from the players perspective it make sense too. If the normal guy signs something like this that gets him to age 32/33 he might be too old for a big payday. Chouria can sign this and still hit FA at 29/30 for another big payday.
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Yea I don't think it means a trade needs to happen. First, none of the young guys are proven hitters at MLB yet, though a couple have shown good signs. Plus they can all be optioned. Also, as we saw last year people will get injured. Besides that, Weimer was so bad at hitting last year that he should not be penciled in at MLB. He should have to start at AAA unless he just tears the cover off the ball in spring. Remember he was really only up last year due to injury. And if really needed Taylor is the easiest one to trade as he's running out of control and is paid more. You keep all the young guys. I'd prefer just keeping them all and seeing who pans out though. And Taylor is a cheap stable average mlber right now so might as well keep around too.
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Of course there's a risk in this, that's what makes it possible at all. He risks losing a bunch of money if he's a legit star. We risk paying too much if he flops. Its a risk on both sides. To me, we can't sit back and look at the Braves thinking 'man they are smart for locking in those contracts so young, geniuses, they're one of the smartest organizations' and then not try to do it ourselves when the opportunity presents itself. Based on the luck of the Brewers (and whatever our hitting coaches do to these guys), sure when we do it he'll probably flop but that's just the pessimism creeping in. Assuming this isn't some Tatis level money and is in the ballpark of the numbers folks have thrown around in here I think you have to do it.
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Wouldn't say its anything drastic by any means. But, he just saw a guy 3ish years older than he'll be when he hits FA who is not as good as him still get this contract. Again, nothing drastic to change anything but just saying its probably a tick on the side against just "taking 20 mil to put in the bank no matter what happens" that would lead to him taking the team friendly things we've suggested here. Basically just another contract showing its a players market as of now.
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Yea Gray is someone I've always liked and generally he's produced well when not hurt the last few years. But 25 mil per year for ages 34-37 is a risky proposition. Also, as it relates to us. Woodruff had to love seeing this deal and probably hurts our chances of a cheap 2 year deal with a team option that some have kicked around here as a hope.
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I'd assume that too. I just mean if you're already going to the big paying team why not just do it now. Say he gets traded to LAD, they were the whale you wanted to pay you anyway, just work it out before the year so what happened to Woody doesn't happen to you. If he's on us or a team like say Bal who isn't know to pay then for sure he's doing that. But if you're on LAD, SF, Mets, Yanks, Bos type team then you might as well just figure it out now. Those are the type of teams you want anyway. And yea maybe 215 or whatever I said might be low, I was just throwing something out there.
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Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't pay him this and I assume he's washed. But 2022 he did pull a sub 4 era and was sub 3 the year before and was 3rd in CY. So, he's only been trash for one year and even in that year he was ok/competent for LAD to finish the year. With how stupid money is in the MLB it doesn't surprise me he got that much hoping for a bounceback year. White Sox were a trainwreck all year The annoying part is if any team is gonna get one more good year out of him you know its the cardinals.
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Obviously we all assume he's gonna get traded. I would guess its to a team with hopes/goals of keeping him long term. If I'm him I just take the 7/225 or whatever it is before the year starts and don't worry about it ever again.
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Brewers acquire Jake Bauers from NYY
tmwiese55 replied to patrickgpe's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Didn't he just spend half of last year rostered on a team with a 300 million payroll? I mean I have no interest in the guy but we don't have to make every move into some big indictment on them being cheap. I think its probably a whatever move but this is just taking a flyer and hope to get lucky thing. Most concerning to me is this probably means they're not gonna spend money on Santana. I was kind of hoping he'd be the 7-8 mil type guy in the McCutch/Renfroe/Wong/Winker salary slot. I know those guys flopped but he's been so consistently OK that its a safe bet he'd at least provide stable adequate starting level play and not require a large multi year commitment like young FAs do. But maybe he already told them someone else has offered two years. -
Brewers trade with Phillies. Acquire Oliver Dunn
tmwiese55 replied to markedman5's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Obviously don't know much on the specific guys here. But, getting someone this close to AAA/MLB could also prove relevant if Turang is moved to SS due to trading Adames. Not that it means a move is imminent or anything, but could be a factor in getting some depth at these positions. -
No comment on if the Brewers would pick. Based on that quote the other day and the experience he has with the team it sure seems possible to me but idk. For him, for sure he'd take the manager job over bench coach. Being a college coach years ago before the money boom in college sports and then assistant in the majors for years sure he's made a nice living. And its not like I know his salary as bench coach but have to guess its in the 100s of thousands. Again, good living but not rich rich. At his age one Manager hire on a 3-4 year contract sets him for the rest of his life, heck he might make more on that contract than he has in the last like 15-20 years combined.
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Yea technically if Burnes and/or Adames are going then so should they. However, I kind of agree with you their idea of being competitive will likely have them keep those two to still try to be above 500 and have a chance at the playoffs. Then trade them when they have 1 year left. There is a solid logic with it since the division is trash. Plus is their returns gonna be drastically different if they trade them this year vs next? Side note, saw some rumors update thing saying Phi was open to trading Castellanos, think he has 3/60 left on his deal. A stay completive type move to help fix the O could be made up based around Williams for Castellanos type trade. Phi's big weakness is bullpen.
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Yea there's really no way to quantify it to 'prove' anything in a topic like that either way. It's mostly eye test and maybe you could look at general record say the last 1-2 months if you wanted to try to find something. But yea there was a year or two in there where they gave us problems when totally out of it late in the year. The OP was basically just saying it seemed like his teams still cared/tried and gave effort all year even though they had no shot at winning. sure there's no way to 'prove' it as teams that bad can't really win much no matter what. But folks like us who've followed baseball forever know there is plenty of teams that are just checked out the last few weeks/month. It would generally be a good thing if a manager over an intentionally losing team kept his team bought in and caring the whole time anyway. I'm not one who bashes CCs in game stuff since no one can get every BP move right but even the biggest haters on him probably have to accept his biggest strength has seeming being able to keep a great locker room attitude/culture in spite of tons of turnover in players year after year. If someone with more access (like those in charge of hiring for this) than idiots like us on the internet did their digging and found out the same was true about Mattingly that would be a good thing.
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Bellinger is one I was thinking of a few days ago when I said I hope the Cubs blow their wad in FA this year. There's a very good chance they'll be voluntarily taking on a Yelich type burden of a contract. It'll probably be similar money to what Yeli is owed too. But yes, at his age maybe the bounceback year wasn't a fluke. Sure there is a chance of that. But the advanced data doesn't say so. But its just an example of what I mean by this FA class is very questionable if Bellinger is one of the top guys with all the risk he involves.
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Agree. Losing these two ace pitchers is very huge. And in such a move Williams should be traded too. You're essentially losing your 3 best players. Even assuming you do well on the trades it will take really amazing luck to turn a complete blank slate of starting pitching after Peralta to the playoffs in just one year. Its not like the O is all of a sudden gonna become top level to balance it out either. Don't get me wrong, I do generally agree with the strategy just discussed. And I do agree its not like they'll bottom out to true 'rebuild/tank' type level so it won't be as painful. But with how light the minors is in ready pitching it will take a ton of luck to replace the pitching so quickly. Being in a crap division does give some glimmer of hope though as putting together a .500 team that happens to get luck to win like 88 games could win the division.
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Yea, what "advantages" do "small" market teams have? That's what I'm getting at, this is really a thing, big markets think this?
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Forgot to add this earlier after reading the comment here about rooting for jerseys. Not sure if the OP knew it but this was on a Seinfeld episode probably around 30 years ago already.
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Yea it's dirty as heck what they did there. No doubt about that. And now CC can't be too surprised when they do it to him in about 3.5 years too. I was getting at a different topic of how its even possible for big markets to complain about the systemic advantages the small markets get. I mean, cmon. Is that really a thing? The big markets think its bs how unfair of an advantage the small markets have? Big markets think the system is rigged against them?
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Welcome and good post overall. However, did you just say as a big market fan you think its unfair the advantages that TB and MKE get in the structure of the system? That has to be a typo doesn't it?
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But in general those with the most resources/money are more likely to make the playoffs than those without. The Cubs specifically not much the last 5ish years but there is a correlation to money spent and making the playoffs in mlb. And let's not forge the Cubs had quite the 5ish year stretch just before which resulted in a championship.
