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  1. Boy would I dislike this. I would hate this move a lot. Me too. Not trading a 24-year-old future stud infielder (who has already proven to be an asset at the MLB level) for a broken down 3B. I don't care how recognizable his name is. Well, that's really the rose colored glasses isn't it? Urias isn't going to play shortstop for the Brewers on a everyday basis with Adames here. Wong is going to be playing 2nd base everyday through at least 2022 if not 2023 (club option). Urias and his .750 OPS as a third basemen is passable but not much more than that. Certainly a legitimate argument exists the Brewers don't "need" Urias given their current roster construction if they could acquire a better hitter at third base. There is a tendency on these boards to denigrate players on other teams compared to players on Milwaukee, but I wouldn't call Donaldson "broken down." He's on pace for 540 at bats this year. Since 2019 he's played in 265 of a possible 324 games (81%). More importantly though, he's more than "a name"; he's still a terrific player. 2.1 WAR this year already, a slash line of .250/.357/.482. That OPB would be 4th on the Brewers and the SLG would be 2nd. I don't think he gets traded, especially not to Milwaukee, because of the amount of cash he is owed (approx. 8 million of the 21 for this year, then 50 million for 2022 and 2023 incl. buyout of club option) but Urias and JBJ for Donaldson and cash is about as fair as you can make it and certainly would improve the Brewers in the short and long run.
  2. This sort of proves the point; Hiura is batting .160, they’re already wasting service time on a guy who isn’t major league ready. Keston won’t be on the major league roster after Friday. More importantly what was the biggest name they’ve traded away at the deadline? Brett Phillips, Jorge Lopez, Jonathon Villar all those players were have been moved already since the Brewers traded them. Thus, I don’t think they’re going to trade anyone of note by Friday, which means a .800+ OPS corner infielder probably isn’t coming to Milwaukee. Finally, as a GM you have to have a short memory. Obviously, Schoop can play as evidenced by his stat line since 2018, and there’s no club option or high cost in acquiring him. In 2018, when he was traded I can get the “not being comfortable in Milwaukee” as he was leaving the only club he had played for to go to the Brewers. Now, 3 years later, he’s a journeyman and no doubt follows the paycheck wherever it may lead.
  3. I keep having this thought that the Brewers will end up re-acquiring Schoop at the deadline. Right handed hitter, rental, has played first base this year, has hit .271/.316/.469 since his disaster with Milwaukee in 2018. It seems so in their character like when they acquired Lyles a second time, allows them to keep their grade A minor league talent, and improves the overall talent on the roster.
  4. It seems this list is fairly subjective. Take Hiura for example, he’s been one of the worst hitters in MLB this year, and a complete flop overall since his rookie season. With legitimate questions if he can hit major league pitching he’s not going to have much value. Joe Gray is in High A, he’s years away from the major leagues which will limit his value. Torres-Costa is going to be 27 years old and a few months from being a 6 year minor league free agent. I suppose he could be a throw in and get a cup of coffee in the major leagues this year, but his value is nil. After having no starting pitching depth for over a generation I don’t think the front office would be keen to dismantle it to plug other holes on the roster. If the Brewers could get Josh Donaldson and have Minnesota pick up significant cash, then it might be worth considering moving one of Lauer or Houser, but even then it doesn’t make a ton of sense for Minnesota
  5. Not surprised, IMO. I’m certain the Brewers have made inquiries about all of the above and Scherzer. Question is who they’re still in on after that initial discussion…. Donaldson would be a nice pick up if they could get the Twins to pay some cash (not likely), otherwise I don't think the Brewers would be looking to add that kind of commitment to a player who is owed big money for multiple seasons. Unless of course they can convince the Twins to take Lorenzo Cain off their hands. The Brewers certainly wouldn't miss him as he has barely played in two years.
  6. Sounds like a good time to trade for Ender Inciarte
  7. The Brewers are the only team in their Division with a positive run differential Reds -20 Cubs-20 Cardinals -35 Pirates -120 If the Brewers only play .500 baseball the rest of the way they would end up 89-73. The Reds would have to go 38-24 just to tie a .612 winning percentage The Cubs would have to go 39-22 just to tie a .639 winning percentage The Cardinals need to go 39-23 just to tie a .629 winning percentage. Given the math, it actually wouldn't surprise me if the Brewers skipped making a big trade at the deadline and instead added some more peripheral players to add a couple of fresh arms to the pitching staff, and upgrade their bench and hang on to their best minor league depth.
  8. Agreed its a saga, and it filled the dead time in the NFL between the draft and the start of training camp. Unlike MLB or the NBA the owners in football are very strong vis a vis the players. Other than flat out retiring (and still potentially having to pay back bonus money) Rodgers didn't have many realistic options. I assume when the details are known the team gave him some concessions for Rodgers to save face and allow the team to move foreword. As someone else pointed out, the real legacy will likely be that Rodgers revealed himself as an ego-maniac and kind of a tool to a lot of Packer fans.
  9. We'll never know for sure, NFL contracts are all about how they're structured versus the salary cap and what the guarantee is not the overall dollar amount. They can offer a bajillion dollars, but vague statements like that (and like this whole saga in general) don't really mean anything. On the other hand, Rodgers no showing for training camp/holding out would cost him money he's already been paid. Lo and behold his grievance is put to bed before his taking a stand removes significant money from his pocket.
  10. Exactly, I believe in addition to Adams they have multiple other pass-catcher heading into free agency. It would impair the Packers negotiating if those players knew Rodgers was gone after the year. Moreover, imagine the discord it would create if the team flopped out of the gate, with Rodgers eyeing his exit.
  11. This pretty much sums up anything related to Rodgers this year thanks to a clown show in the media. Honestly, people should hang out some of these reporters to dry. It is a joke. It was a few days ago some reporter was convinced Rodgers was going to sit out like 4 weeks of the regular season. Thing sure changed quick. Rodgers showing up day one to training camp always seemed predictable to me. In the end, money talks, always. Rodgers was not likely going to subject himself to $50,000 a day fines for holding out of training camp; and was never going to cut the Packers a check to pay back the bonus money the team would have been entitled to if he held out. He had "his people" feed the media nuggets of a story while remaining virtually silent so he can have plausible deniability to the notion he would never play for the Packers again.
  12. That's the thing that likely created the whole situation: Not even Rodgers himself knows how long his body will allow him to play at a high level. I understand Rodgers being miffed the team didn't respect him and his stated desire to play into his 40s. However, that's the smart play by the Packers as the number of QBs in the last twenty years who played effectively into their mid-40s can be counted on one finger. Even after this saga what did Rodgers really get, he got to skip the off-season workouts, tweak the front office and team executives, and a voidable year on his contract when he's 40 years old. We'll see when the ink is dry on the details of this deal, the initial reports are that Rodgers is giving the Packers salary relief without taking a cut in pay, which likely means he's signing an extension so they can convert his salary to bonus money and spread it out over the term of the contract. Likely with voidable years by Rodgers in the future. I would also be surprised if the Packers don't have a mechanism to control Rodgers for the 2022 season in some fashion.
  13. Who’s taking Scherzer’s 15 million in deferred salary for 2021 and Hand’s 6.5? It won’t be Milwaukee; nor does that package of players entice the Nationals to eat 21.5 million dollars. Due to the deferments they probably don’t move either player
  14. It's not an inability to build around Trout per se, they have been very aggressive trying to put good players around Trout. However, they are a great example of the risks of trading prospects for veterans. Tyler Chatwood (2nd round 2008) traded in 2011 for Chris Ianetta Randall Grichuk (1st round 2009) traded in 2013 for David Freese and Fernando Salas Patrick Corbin (2nd round 2009) traded in 2010 for Dan Haren and Joe Saunders Mike Clevinger (4th round 2011) traded in 2014 for Vinne Pestano Sean Newcomb (1st round 2014) traded in 2015 for Andrelton Simmons They are also a great example of the risk of handing out long term contracts/extensions. Pujols --.256/.311/.447 at a cost of 240 Million dollars Upton--.238/.328/.454 at a cost of 106 million dollars Cozart--.190/.261/.296 at a cost of 38 million dollars Street --115 innings across four seasons fo r 27 million dollars
  15. If they trade Berrios then it is a full scale rebuild and maybe there is a way the Brewers can get Donaldson without taking the whole contract.
  16. I think you are selling Marcano short a bit as a prospect, too. Ranking #5 in the Padres' stacked system is no small feat. Marcano would likely be #1 or #2 in the Brewers' system (ahead of Turang). He's legit. Plus, he's already been in the major leagues; no small thing as the trend lately is to trade minor leaguers who are years away from playing in the major leagues.
  17. It’s basically the same group who won the World Series the last time they played 162 games. Their division lacks a dominant team. Historically, they don’t sell big pieces. I bet they don’t move anyone and see what happens down the stretch
  18. The Nationals don’t really have a reason to sell. They’re 8 games back in the Division with 10 games left against the Mets, 11 against Philadelphia, and 9 against the Braves Then they have 20 games left against Cubs, Marlins and Colorado. Division is wide open they just need to play better
  19. Frankly, since Miller Park opened, the Brewers have been good for about six of those twenty years which is why they haven’t been featured much. That being said, I believe they’ve been on each of the last two years at Wrigley Field
  20. Based on what? Some journalist’s “top prospect lists”? The scouting report when he was drafted was there were questions about his bat (why he was still available at #21 overall in the draft). 3+ years into his pro-career those questions still exist. Maybe he ends up reaching that 60 (20-80 scale) potential hit tool, and 40 power tool but he isn’t there now and it’s all speculation if/when he gets there. He’s not a pitcher, he doesn’t have a dominant tool, he’s years away from the major leagues if he gets there at all. If you think he has the most value outside of Garret Mitchell we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
  21. They felt like they weren’t getting some calls when the Brewers were at the plate, which caused La Russa to get tossed. The pitches he was whining about were definitely balls though. LaRussa is smarter than to make a game about the umpires as opposed to the Brewers, he got himself tossed to wake his team up and given Anderson’s ejection it seems to have worked
  22. Depends what you get I suppose. For some middling players, yeah it probably doesn't make sense. As part of a package to add a premium talent somewhere to the roster, that's different. Well, sort of. You’d have to subtract the regression at 3B from the value of the expected upgrade. Seems like trading Turang just makes more sense from an in-season perspective. Like I said, it depends who they could get in a package of players including Urias. Maybe you can flip Urias for Kyle Gibson. He's a 3.4 WAR player this year just moving him into the rotation and moving Anderson or Houser to the pen in place of Perdomo or Gustave etc. More than makes up for Urias AND allows the Brewers to lean less heavily on their Big 3 as they pitch more innings than they have before as pros. Turang just isn't going to bring as much back for Milwaukee. The reality is there's a ton of prospect love on these boards, but Turang in 2021 isn't a Dansby Swanson or Trea Turner. In fact a shortstop in AA with a career OPS of .722 as a pro isn't a sure bet to see the big leagues. Urias on the other hand already has had success in the major leagues.
  23. Depends what you get I suppose. For some middling players, yeah it probably doesn't make sense. As part of a package to add a premium talent somewhere to the roster, that's different.
  24. Why not Urias? He's not going to be a starting middle infielder before 2023 with Adames and Wong on the roster and maybe not even then depending on Wong's club option. Then the Brewers have Turang at SS in AA, he should be ready by 2023. They also just used a first round pick on Tyler Black, who is coming to pro-ball as an advanced hitter from college. He should also be knocking on the door at some point in 2023 as well. Urias is passable as a 3B in the vein of Gio Urshela or Jeimer Candelario, but most of the perennial contenders have a third basemen who brings more power to the table: Arenado, Bryant, Devers, Turner, Donaldson, Bregman, Rendon, Machado, Jose Ramirez, etc., meaning the Brewers probably don't view him as a long term answer at 3B. With four years of team control remaining, and a nice season under his belt he probably brings back the most talent for Milwaukee, and certainly more than Turang would.
  25. The difference is, in the NBA half the teams make the playoffs. It is much harder to win in baseball and make the playoffs. As the 2019 Washington Nationals and other teams can attest to, once you get in the playoffs anything can happen. Moreover, an NBA or NFL team revenue is not driven by ticket sales as much as it is by television and merchandising. Outside of NY, LA, and Chicago baseball teams are more dependent on ticket sales than broadcast revenue, the demand of which is driven by the quality of the product on the field.
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