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billy mckinney appreciation thread; traded to mets 25 may
Jopal78 replied to djoctagone's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
If Garcia sucks so bad, why would anyone trade for him? Plus, at 10 million dollars (plus 2 million buyout of club option); the Brewers aren’t going to pay millions of dollars for Garcia to play for somebody else. As someone else said, Cain, JBJ and Garcia aren’t going anywhere. If McKinney continues to impress, his playing time will likely come at the expense of Hiura and Vogelbach rather than the starting OFers -
billy mckinney appreciation thread; traded to mets 25 may
Jopal78 replied to djoctagone's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Maybe, but there was just an article in The Athletic about McKinney where Stearns stated they claimed McKinney late in 2020 for “the future” because they were surprised, given where they had him evaluated, he was put on waivers in the first place. -
I'd take our chances now with a depleted bullpen if it meant moving Lindbloom back into the rotation. We need a six-man rotation because our two aces simply cannot pitch a regular top-of-the-rotation full season workload if we want them to survive into the postseason and/or not be destroyed in the future due to overwork. Just look at the career innings totals for both Woodruff and Burnes. You've seen Lindblom's stat line for the Brewers? He's been awful so far in 2021, and in every start but two in 2020he gave up multiple runs and failed to finish more than 5 innings along the way. In other words, if the Brewers went to a six-man rotation, I'm not so sure Lindblom would even be the first one out of the chute for the sixth spot.
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You have to figure with Vogelbach and McKinney’s bats showing life and Wong due back this weekend, Hiura may begin to lose playing time. 42% strike out rate and just two hits in the last ten games.
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Hiura 21 Ks in 49 at bats. He could be to the ATS when Wong is activated as there’s really no reason to continue to play a hitter who is a defensive liability and Ks in 43% if his at bats
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Finally, one of the former Top 100 prospects picked up by Milwaukee has something to offer. Now if they can just quit D-Rob
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The fact the team hung with Grisham for a long time when he was “just a guy” in the minor leagues speaks to how they valued him. Really they believed 5 years of Lauer and six years of Urias > than 2 years of Davies and 6 years of Grisham. Time will tell if it was wise or not.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickles_Dillhoefer Players don’t have cool nicknames any more... Pickles, Catfish, Happy, Three finger etc etc
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I think last night's win was exactly how they drew it up this year. Their pitching suffocated the Padres lineup (four total base runners after the 2nd inning), and when Musgrove did make a mistake the Brewers hit them hard. Maybe they got lucky they went over the fence but I think this is exactly the type of game they wanted to play this year.
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The last scouting info I could find on him indicated a 50 hit tool (average) and 40 power tool (below average). With above average running, fielding and average throwing arm. He's perfectly cast in his role right now as a 4th/5th outfielder. With Yelich and Cain out they may as well play the hot hand, but they have better options as regulars than Tyrone Taylor.
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Wasn't that right when that historical McGwire/Sosa homerun chase was going on? That's some pretty crucial context to that. If anybody ever chases a single season HR record again I'm sure fans will be flocking to the stadium to see it. So what? Those people turned out to see McGwire play. Sure he was doing some memorable things, but the point is nobody was going to those games for the experience of seeing two 2nd rate teams play out the string.
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The 1998 Cardinals were a third place club, the Brewers were a 5th place club. Yet near the end of the season from September 18-20 the Brewers drew 150,000 fans for a 3 game series against the Cardinals. Everyone was there to see one guy play.
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With Peterson on the roster you have to figure Robertson’s time with the team is drawing to a close unless he gets the bat going.
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He is so bad that I'm not sure he is going to be in the league in 2 years. I'm very patient usually, but he looks like he can't play the game. Tonight is I believe his 157th major league game. So you and a lot of people are giving up on him before he's even played a full season worth of major league games. The kid needs to go through some growing pains. Most players do. That’s why he’s still playing, an older vet striking on a 180 strike out pace would already have been sent packing.
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...as Braun’s phone starts to ring
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Also true. He's behind 92 mph meatballs. I don't know if I've ever seen a case of a guy who came up looking so natural, only to completely and inexplicably lose it. It’s the double toe tap. With all the video on hitters they other teams know they how to pitch him and get his timing off.
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I would have thought Vogelbach's hold on a roster spot was most tenuous, until yesterday. Now if there is a player that is in danger of losing their spot I would say it's Robertson. It's not as if he's a wizard in the field, and so for he's offered next to nothing and they have several players with an identical skill set... ie Jace Peterson.
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This is some sort of backwards logic. Nobody is really driving 3+ hours to Milwaukee and shelling out $150 bucks primarily to drink beer and grill in a parking lot. Unfortunately that information probably isn't tracked but I'd be willing to bet the majority of folks tailgating at a Brewers game are from the Milwaukee metro area. Ditto with the roof, maybe in 2002 it was a novelty. But with the ease of buying tickets on line today, if you check the weather before you buy you can almost certainly avoid a rain out..... unless of course you're travelling because you want to see a specific team or player. It is a cool experience going to see a professional baseball game, which probably drives most out of towners to see a Brewers game each summer. But it is also true star players= more winning=greater revenue. I was at the game yesterday and saw multiple jerseys and t-shirts of Braun, Yelich, Hader, Hiura and even a Gomez. Star sells stuff that the Keith Ginters and Allen Levraults of the world cannot.
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It’s a little more complicated than that. The Rays actually did sign Evan Longoria to a long term deal, then ostensibly gave him away to the Giants to move the contract. They also signed Snell to a long term deal which they then traded him away in order to get out of it. Second, the Rays have drafted considerably better than the Brewers. Milwaukee has 5 position players in their starting lineup who came over as free agents with only one regular hitter who came up with the organization. Before you can just cycle through players trading off expensive veterans you need the David Price, Chris Archer, Ben Zobrist to get the good prospects in return. The Brewers did an excellent job trading off Gallardo, Lind, Gomez and Lucroy. Since then, they haven’t really had any players they could trade off that would have brought much of a return. Third, and what you alluded to, with a team like the Brewers where on a given night half the crowd is from outside the Milwaukee area, they have to have a drawing card. It’s hard to get folks in from Stevens Point etc when you don’t have a player or two to market, and unless the team is ultra competitive there isn't enough local interest to fill the stadium every night. It’s always been that way with the Brewers.
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They have three starters on the DL; and their 5-9 hitters (Hiura and the backups plus 9 hole) went 0-17. Not going to win many with half the lineup unable to get a hit.
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Except Woodruff is already in arbitration. It’s a non-sensical notion he’d forgo arbitration for a yearly guarantee when his salary in arbitration is based partially on performance but also what other players received. He’d potentially be leaving millions of dollars on the table. Further, if Woodruff remains a strong performer his entire time in Milwaukee his age going into free agency won’t matter (Jon Lester, Cole Hamels and Zack Greinke all got real paid at the same age). If Burnes keeps pitching as he had all year he’ll get to arbitration this winter and submit a number in excess of ten million. If he continues to pitch at an elite level an extension would not make any sense from his perspective. Which brings up point three. As someone else alluded to, I don’t think the Brewers are ever going to pay market rates for starting pitchers. They’ll hang on to Burnes and Woodruff until their team control is about to end, then They will trade them for what they can get. That’s why a pitcher like Ashby is their most important prospect. He’s the natural replacement for Woodruff in 1.5-2 years. Like in Cleveland, one group of starters begins to get expensive/approach free agency Kluber, Carrasco, Bauer, Clevenger and they’re traded away with new arms stepping up Bieber, Plesac, Civale, Etc. it’s the only way to make it work without a 200 million dollar payroll
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When are they going to announce Williams is trying to pitch through an injury. He’s either behind or getting hit.
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Anything is possible, but as T-Plush said if either one was going to sign a team friendly deal it would’ve happened already. With Woodruff already in arbitration and Burnes heading there, the Brewers have no leverage. Each player will make exponentially more going year to year in arbitration and if they continue to perform they will cash in as free agents. To your point, if the strongest argument as to why a player should sign an extension is: they’ll be protected from a career ending injury; the team has already failed.
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But it's apples and oranges. Peralta was pre-arbitration eligible and he got more money up front than he would've likely received otherwise and gave the Brewers potentially one extra season of team control in return. On the other hand, Woodruff already has no real incentive to sign an extension with Milwaukee. He is already making 3.25 million and his salary will only further sky rocket. Same deal with Burnes, he will be arbitration eligible after this season and really has no incentive to give up future earnings now or contract away his right to free agency. Like what Dolan said regarding Lindor, Milwaukee controls Burnes and Woodruff for at least three more years, enjoy them.
