I guess I'm not a fan of the "that interception was just like a punt" because I literally thought one of Rodgers' picks on Sunday looked exactly like that but then nobody tackled the guy and he returned it almost back to the original line of scrimmage. I guess punts get returned too but at least your special teams have a plan for how to cover a return instead of guys scrambling to compensate for an offensive mistake. Anyway, I'm mostly outside the debate you are having, I think a bad loss can simply be a bad loss so I suppose I'm more on your side of it. It's how they respond to this loss that will provide the context in the next few weeks, along with what the Saints will look like as well. New Orleans was a legitimate Super Bowl contender last season, just because Brees retired doesn't make their team terrible. I fell into that line of thinking as well even though I knew their defense has been pretty good for a while and they still have an offense that features Kamara. Brees really wasn't very impressive last season, it doesn't shock me that they're capable of having a really good day on offense, especially if Jameis Winston can play with this type of control and isn't just flinging the ball around willy nilly.