Let's not get carried away although Marquette is half Illinisian. Work and fun-no-except for when I go to Miller Park like in 15 hours via Lincoln Park. Fun is had by Chicago people in Dells, Lake Geneva, and northern Wisconsin though. Definitely not Milwaukee.I think Brenly's crack was a general one about the state and I think that's what TwR meant if not what he said. And it's kinda what I always asked friends in Chicago when I was living there when they'd dog on Wisconsin: "Ever notice how much thicker the traffic is northbound on 90/94 on Friday nights and Saturday mornings?" I'm a big fan of both places, Wisconsin and Chicago, having lived many years in both (although just Chicago proper--most of the Chicago suburbs are some of the homeliest, drabbest places on Earth, and the rest of the state? Forget about it), so I'm always torn when this kind of ridiculousness comes up, but I'm like you, Bob--it's like little brothers: Milwaukee is where I was born, Wisconsin is family, and as such, Milwaukee is mine to rip on, not theirs.