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  1. It wasnt meant as a personal attack of anything like that, just that it might baffle you simply because you have never been placed in that situation - similar to someone (not necessarily you) not understanding someone's plight who is born poor, of handicapped, or of different color etc. As far as anyone being able to recite miranda rights, again, that is YOUR experience. So you watch a lot of movies and Law and Order, many dont, many also dont speak english well. Heck, one might be able to say that "anyone can recite Maroon 5 lyrics" but I dont know a single song they play, only that a band called Maroon exists. There is a difference between police deception and coercing a confession. It might as simple as asking for a lawyer, but if you dont know you have that right and the police dont tell you, it isnt that easy. People trust the police, and an officer says "you have the right to an attorney" not "ask us for an attorney" or "we cant talk to you until you decline an attorney" etc. It can easily be construed that you have a right to an attorney, and when it becomes appropriate the police will provide you with on. Only the police dont, they pressure you and pinch you until they get what they want. Many times their instincts are correct and they are pinching the perp. However, it isnt uncommon for them to be wrong and trying to get a confession out of an innocent person. You and I live privileged lives, we have a good education, cable TV, etc. Those things we take for granted - and for those who dont have those things the police take advantage.
  2. Right now Yost thinks Mota is pitching well because no runs have scored. I guarantee you he waits until runs are scored/lead has been lost before he takes him out.
  3. I agree, having Bush available to go 5-6-7th inning would be great.
  4. This is true, hadnt thought about that. Lucky break there. Nice play.
  5. I really think you take for granted your education and life experience. Not all people know that they CAN ask for a lawyer. They defer to the police officer, because they trust that they will do what is right (i.e. just give you a lawyer if you are entitled to one, not make you ask). You also dont consider what it is like for an all-day or extended interrogation. After you have been deprived sleep and grilled for hours, and finally someone says to you, just sign this and you can go home, you sign it because, again, you trust them and next thing you know you are Christopher Ochoa. Christopher Ochoa, Ochoa was a classmate of mine in law school. He also did 12 years in prison for a murder he didnt commit. He confessed after police convinced him they had enough to convict him. He was trying to avoid the death penalty. Also, amazingly enough as part of his deal the State wanted him to testify against another guy, and he did, and guess what, it was all a lie. The police bullied him into it. Gee, sounds a lot like this case. So it happens. You can sit there and say that "it baffles you" that people would confess to murder, but it is the truth and it happens more often than you think. Im sure it also baffles you that people are born to crack addicts, or that people are discriminated against for being female or handicap, or that if baffles you that kids drop out of school when they grow up poor and with one parent. "baffling" huh?
  6. I...think...Prince is duuueeee, and I've never felt this way before. Yes I swear. It's the truth, and I owe it all to Yost.
  7. Looks like I know what I'll be making for dinner tonight, if I can wait that long. Thanks.
  8. I just had the mental image of Ben Sheets as a hitting instructor.http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/laugh.gif Today watching the game I was trying to imagine his smack-talk when he got back to the dugout after his rbi sac-bunt.
  9. He finally learned how to win, and by learn how to win I mean teach his team how to hit HRs when he starts. Congrats Ben!
  10. I cant really get Gameday or SPortsline to work. It has been like this pretty much all season.
  11. Most Loved Current: Lyle Overbay Most Loved Past: Jeff Cirillo Most Hated: Gary Sheffield Most Hated runner up: Johnny Estrada? I only count "ex-Brewers" as guys who were traded away or who left at one time via FA.
  12. Reyes, Wright Beltran and has beens and never will be's. Milwaukee has the better lineup, for sure.
  13. As to part one of your response - He isnt so much admitting to being guilty of 2nd degree as he is saying that "you might have enough to convict me of 1st degree, Id rather know I'll be out in 20 and have a life at 38 than risk a mandatory life sentence. It isnt all that common. As to point two (and somewhat point one). Cops tell suspects what they want them to confess to all the time, and guess what? People confess to things they dont do...all the time, even "smart" people. I graduated law school with a guy who was convicted of murder in Texas, mostly because the cops did terrible detective work and then went to work on this guy (who found the body) until he confessed. The Wisconsin Innocence Project got him out, and he graduated law school with me. So that being said, he could think it was self defense, but he is just a kid, and if he thinks the police think it is murder (which they do think, and it likely is) then he thinks it is murder and wants a deal to save his life. Making deals to get less 20 years as opposed to life isnt that uncommon, especially if you have been convinced by the experts (the police) that if you dont plea you will get life. Cops lie all the time.
  14. Yeah, I dont dabble in criminal law at all either, and by the time we got to Conspiracy in Crim Law I had pretty well checked out. This is a real life case going on right now in Michigan. http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080408/NEWS02/804080379/1004/NEWS The facts are this: (Law school final exam question to follow) Three people, DEF1, DEF2 and VIC, plan to extort money from another party. In reality, DEF1 tells DEF2 he wants to kill VIC "for the thrill of it" more or less and that the extortion is a set up to get VIC to the garage. DEF2 testifies that he did not believe DEF1 was going to go through with it, but doesnt tell anyone before it happens or after. When VIC shows up, under the premise he is going to get money from the unnamed third party, DEF1 kills him. DEF2 doesnt help but watches, then helps dispose of body. DEF2 pleads guilty to 2nd degree murder and agrees to testify against DEF1. DEF1 says that all along the plan was to exort the money, and that VIC, who has a not-so-clean background shows up he gets mad that there is no money and pulls out a gun (not disputed he had a gun) and that DEF1 killed him because he feared for his life. VIC is 26 and a big guy, DEF1 is 17 and looks 12. End of facts. I watched some of this trial on CourtTv. I highly doubt the jury is going to buy the self defense claim, (however there is a burden shifting statute in Michigan that says State must prove it wasnt self defense) but I did get to thinking about what might happen if they did, as DEF2 seems likable and somewhat caught up in something that wasnt his idea.
  15. Right, but there are issues with the plea deal. For one, pressure put on defendants to confess, especially pressure from detectives who believe they know how the crime happened and tell the defendant that if they dont take the deal they have enough to prove it and you will get life. The other question I have is What is the purpose of the justice system. Here the police believe this was murder, not self defense. We have someone the police know did NOT commit the murder, was only there and assisted the murderer, getting 20 years while the person the police know killed the person getting off on a good self defense claim/attorney. If a jury says "no, the police got it wrong" and in the process of getting it wrong they get one person to flip and take 20 years out of fear of spending the rest of his life in prison, shouldnt there be some recourse for that person? Afterall, they cooperated and tried to help the police by testifying against the killer.
  16. If this is another Brewers/Bucks conflict case Id just rather the game get washed out.
  17. I have had problems with brewers.com as well. It was about the first week of the season, I havent been back since.
  18. Perez and Maine dont exactly have sparkling track records.
  19. Question for people who know more about Criminal Law than I do. Murder trial. Two defendants. Once takes plea deal to testify against the other. The one who takes the plea deal is identified as the accomplice, but not the one who commits the murder. He pleads guilty to second degree murder. He then takes stand against guy who actually did the crime. That guy's defense was that it was self defense against the alleged victim. Yadda, Yadda, yadda, the jury comes back and finds the defendant not guilty of intentional homicide, they believe it was self defense. He skates, then the sentencing is up for the accomplice and he gets 20 years. Is there any recourse for the accomplice in our legal system? I would think not, but it sure is an unfortunate result.
  20. Weeks is usually good for 1-2 foul outs/pop outs a game. His line is usually something like 1-4, 2ks, a foul pop out and a laser beam basehit. EDIT - Oh, and a walk.
  21. Why not leave Prince at 3 and move Braun to the 2 hole. That makes the most sense.
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