Hoffy, in you hopes of convincing yourself the Brewers are actually pretty good if not for Ned Yost, you overestimate the talent of the palyers you mention (even if only slightly), and you simply fail to recognize that outside the players you mention which accounts for only 1/2 the roster, the rest of the roster is basically completely devoid of talent. You also, underestimate the importance and poor performance of the pitching. The bullpen is a joke, in large part because the have had way too much work as a result of way too many 4 and 5 inning starts. Unless you plan to play every inning with only 9 position players, 4 starters and 2 guys out of the bullpen, you are going to end up with guys on the other half of the roster - the bad half in a position where the need to deliver. How on earth is that Ned Yost's fault? The other team gets a say in the matter too you know. I'd like to believe this team is more talented than they appear too, but unless you know something Doug Melvin doesn't, Ned Yost is not the problem. If he is the problem, then DM should be fired right along with with him, for not only failing to make a change but extending him for next year. If the team has talent as you argue, and if Ned is keeping them from performing to their talent level, as you also argue, then Doug Melvin has failed to meet his responsibility by failing to recognize that. With all respect due your baseball wisdom, I am going to stick with Doug on this one - for the time being anyway.