Another thing to think about for Manny this year is that his career high IP in a single year in the minors is not quite 140, and that was 4 years ago in Beloit. I'd guess that would be his inning max this year, and maybe not even that high (possibly 120?). This means he'll have to either be shut down or moved to the bullpen sometime in early August. X, that's interesting about Manny taking a long time to warm up. Maybe it could help Ned's bullpen strategy, knowing he'd have to be thinking about these things a few innings ahead of time. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif It could also be that since Manny has never really relieved, he's not used to warming up more quickly, and that's something that could come with time. I'd still like to see if he could start before giving up on that option. He still has one option remaining after this year, so I'd like to see him used as a starter again in AAA next year assuming he doesn't break with the big club as a reliever.