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  1. but Barry Neffield, only cares about Barry Neffield. His numbers are one thing, but do those numbers produce World Series titles (the ultimate goal). Think of how good Barry would be if he put his team's goals infront of his own. Its kind of like when you were in school or at your job when you have someone on your team who you don't like or respect, it makes it much more difficult to accomplish what the whole team wants to accomplish and it makes for a very unpleasant atmosphere.
  2. I think technique can be used to describe heart when talking about changing your technique and working hard to better yourself through practice and preperation
  3. I agree brett about the "whole" team sport thing to a degree, but you don't think baseball is a team sport at all? Don't the good teams do whatever it takes to win instead of just knocking the ball around the park and raising their OPS. I think it is identified in the sentence, execution is part of it. But it is doing the little thing and taking responsbility and actually caring about how you perform. Meeting expectations with the desire to do better.
  4. I don't know if this deserves it's own thread but we have talked about it alot and I got a great quote from Dennis Green that sums it all up. "We define heart as hustle, execution, attitude, respect and technique."
  5. what those splits show is that when the pitcher needs an out, Braynan has no chance. He is not that good of a hitter. His OPS rises when no one is on base or it is a meaningless at bat.
  6. Thank you bjkrautk. Your the man
  7. Sorry, I never read Moneyball and maybe his whole "A's beating the Giants" went right over my head. Did I miss something?
  8. First of all he said that the A's went on to beat the Angels and then beat S.F. in the world series. That never happened, so he lost a lot of credibility right there. Also, yeah it didn't work out for the Twins in that game but by swinging away and not bunting were they guaranteed to win? In my mind you can throw all the numbers away. They don't mean that much to me. If I was a Twins fan, I don't think I would have wanted them to bunt up one, down one yes, but not up one. But he did get the bunt down and they had two chances to score the runner so the decision wouldn't have bothered me too much. I just don't think you can count every bat equally whether you are comparing OPS, or productive outs. Every at bat is a differnent situation where I would hope for best case senarios and worst case senarios. Obviously, players are going to disappoint and not do everything expected of them. I think you need both OPS and productive outs. I would never say that a player that makes a lot of productive outs is great the same way I think Braynan sucks. I prefer players who have the ability to change their approach based on the situation and count. I don't know if that answered your question but when he started bashing Buster and started throwing out tons of numbers I started to lose interest.
  9. Brian, I did read the article. It is one guy's point of view. That is like watching a Michael Moore documentary and thinking it isn't biased. Brian, sorry for calling him Ashlee Simpson but he does have the picture. I just hope you understand I enjoy arguing with you over these things. I respect your opinion and know you have great knowledge of the game. The beauty of this website is to have discussions like that. I know I am new here and don't have the same opinions as others on here but I can only bite my lip for so long. I don't like the arrogance of brett or rulz and someone needs to challenge them every once in a while. If the team was winning, I'm sure we would all be getting a long much better but then again Braynan wasn't productive last night (just kidding)
  10. Another reason why you can't put stats on productive outs is because every situation is different. Down by 7 in the 8th inning is a lot different than a tie game in the 8th. That is when productive outs are important and that is how winning teams win baseball games. But you guys will never understand that because you probably haven't seen an article on the internet or saw actual data that proves that. Just watch the game.
  11. Ashlee Simpson, I understand your point of view and have to accept the fact that we are different people. I can think outside the box every once in a while and don't believe everything just because someone says so. What I am getting at is you have no clue what stat wins game. Every game is different and every game a different factor or stat might decide the game. That is where I come in and form my opinions. I don't need that stat to tell me that I don't want Braynan up with a runner on second or third when we need to get the runner over in a worst case senario. One other thing that we differ on, I can remember all at bats. Not to the point where if you say what did Bill Hall do on April 30th but I can do a pretty good job of keeping a level head and not getting carried away when a player is on a hot streak or cold streak
  12. I thought they didn't keep track of productive outs? How do they rank 27th?
  13. There is a good chance that the hitter singles, doubles or drives the runner in???????????/ Wouldn't that chance be his batting average. Last time I checked I haven't seen a batting average so high that I would say it is a good chance (i.e. 80% that he will get a hit)
  14. I agree with you Fike and that is why I have formed the opinion that Braynan does not live up to the hype many have created for him on this website.
  15. Obviously a hit or walk is better than an out. That is not what I am talking about. What I am talking about is when you do make an out it helps if you move the runners over. And there are a lot of guys with a good OPS that can't do that. Because there is no statistic for it your mind will never change. You can just say, "look at the stats" Yeah the Sox have a high OPS, which is always going to help, but they do the little things also which are equally important. Look at last Wednesday's game with the Cards. They beat us on two productive outs in the first inning. Of course you guys are going to support that article because it is written with a bias towards guys who sit on the computer and crunch numbers all day. Although I find that interesting to some degree, I won't get carried away with it and can use my own judgement without being bias in formulating my opinions on players. Watch the game tonight and I can almost guarantee you that we will win or lose this game based on productive outs. Obviously we need hits but how we make our outs is just as important.
  16. I know I am not the most popular guy around here today and I can live with that, but something is really bugging me. The reason the Brewers are where they are now is because we don't have good consistent at bats. As a team, on average, I would guess (and I'm sure someone will look it up and throw the exact stat out there) that teams hit around .270 I think it is important what you do when you make an out .730 of the time. The Brewers don't move runners over and have bad at bats. Many on here think productive outs don't matter or doesn't even exist. Teams like the RedSox, Cards, Braves, Twins, Angels, would have found a way to get atleast one run if not two runs last night in the 8th inning without getting a hit. Now, that wouldn't help the almighty OPS but it would help the team actually win. So please tell me while OPS is more important than a productive out. I understand a home-run consists of scoring a run without making an out, and a sac-fly is obviously better than a strikeout. Why should they be weighted the same against their OPS? Instead of reading boxscores and looking at stats, actually sit down, watch the game and watch the way good players and teams play the game.
  17. Ralph, your killing me. How can you defend Yost there. That move was downright wrong. I think even Sheets would have rather had someone pinch hit for him so he didn't get the loss.
  18. Teams in front of us do not matter. Number of games do. Last week 6 teams were ahead of us and everyone said that was too many teams. Now it is only 5 teams and that is too many teams. Just keep winning series. We are only 2.5 games behind being in 2nd place in the wild card standings. Doesn't seem like too big of a stretch to say we are in decent shape.
  19. Don't you think Houston passed teams last year on their run. It boils down to us winning games and winning series. Yeah 6 teams are ahead of us, but we play 2 of them this week. If we win 2 out of 3 from NY we are 1/2 game behind them. Win 2 out of 3 in Philly we gain a game on them. The Phillies are playing the Cubs, we have a chance to gain on the losers of those games. Teams in front of you really don't matter. Do you really think the teams in front of us won't lose games. I understand that being behind 6 teams leaves a chance that only 1 of those 6 teams has to got hot and we get screwed, but there is a chance that none of them will go on a huge winning streak or god forbid, we might get hot. Lets see how Houston does out west in Arizona and S.F. I am hoping they go 3-3 or maybe even 2-4. As long as we can start winning series and playing decent ball on the road, we are in this race
  20. Because these series HAVE been huge
  21. Whether we want to admit it or not (with the chance of being let down) we ARE in the wild card chase. How can we not be. We are 5.5 games back with 2 months to go with many opportunites to catch the teams ahead of us. I think tonights game is huge for many reasons #1 Our last 3 game winning streak was June 30-July 2. Wouldn't it be nice to win 3 in a row. #2 First game of a difficult 9 game stretch against teams with winning records #3 Pedro is pitching tomorrow #4 Good teams win series in August and September and taking the first game in a 3 game series is pretty important. Now, if you want to think this game isn't big or think that we have no chance for the wild-card, why would you get so bad and so defensive when calling this a big game (must win) It is obvious you don't want to be part of the hype because you feel if you don't risk any emotions into this game then you won't be as let down if they lose
  22. I know you don't want to get into this Ralph. I understand every game is equally important when looking at wins and losses but you do have to admit that some games are more important when considering other factors. This is a big game tonight.
  23. It is a must win if we want to make the playoffs. There I said it
  24. That is absolutely ridiculous. YOST SUCKS. Brady is seeing the ball great, the pitcher is throwing balls all over the place, Sheets can't handle the bat. I have an idea lets suicide squeeze. SCREW YOU YOST
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