PeaveyFury
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I'd move up to 14-15 for Williams and to 17-19 for Olave.
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Yeah, that'll make 28 attractive for a team like Seattle that may want to come back up and take a QB. Cross is a really nice pick for them, but they've got the capital to come back into the first for a QB, which they probably should do.
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London as the first WR off the board is a little surprising. Guess that top 10 rumor was legit.
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Regarding Williams, he wasn't in my 'tiers of WRs' above because A) I don't see him in play at 22, and B)he's the biggest wildcard of the draft, IMO. Honestly, a team committed to long-term drafting like the Packers could find immense value in trading up to get him if he makes it to the mid-teens and if they're committed to double-dipping at WR. Your 2nd WR at 28 or wherever starts from day 1, and Williams offers legit top-of-draft talent that gives you huge value because of the injury. He recovers and contributes at any point this year, and he's a HR pick, IMO. Pair him with a Watson/Pierce pick or if Burks/Pickens are at 28, and that's a pretty great draft for the WR room.
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I continue to have the strong preference to retain all of the 1sts and 2nds to get as many swings at impact players as possible, so I hope they don't pursue a major trade up. I personally don't feel that the difference between someone like Wilson and a WR likely to be there regardless like Pickens is significant enough to justify the chance to add another, say Travis Jones or Drake Jackson-like talent at 53. Obviously, as madbad noted, the Packers' rankings would have to answer that question rather than us though. 22 and their 3rd gets them to about 17, add in a 4th and you get to 15. I'd be ok with that type of move. But I really, really hope they've picked 4 guys before the end of round 2 tomorrow (unless they move one of the early picks to acquire someone, of course).
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I actually do agree from a physical standpoint, 99%. But my issue with London is that his tape seems to underperform his draft status and measurables. Maybe that's a function of coaching that can be built upon in the pros, and I certainly won't be disappointed if they pick him at 22. I'd be a little concerned about moving up for him, though. EDIT: Truly funny that someone from the future took the liberty to edit his wiki profile: Drake London was a bust in the NFL, after being drafted 10th overall by the New York Jets. His career ended up getting whisked away by a lack of production in an injury-plagued career.
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I think there's a very realistic chance they go defense at 22 & 28, especially if there's a WR run that pulls Olave/London/Burks off the board by then. I think you could easily see a scenario where they're left to choose between over-drafting a guy like Watson at 22 or picking a guy who could really be of value on the defensive side. I think a 22/28 of some combo of Dax Hill/Karlaftis/Jones/Wyatt/Cine is completely plausible and not a bad thing for the team other than it would require a pretty great 2nd round to help the offense.
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I think we generally agree. I have Olave/London in the next tier LARGELY based on the assumption that they'll be gone and we'd have to give additional capital to get them. I'm fine with either at 22, though I'll agree that neither seems to have each of the factors that the Packers like either, though it feels like both could be legit NFL receivers.
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Though I've seen those reports too, reilly, I'm also super skeptical of 'unnamed sources' leaking info negatively on a player. There's a large part of me that thinks that someone is trying to create downward momentum on a guy, probably so their team has an increased chance to draft him.
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Burks, Pickens, and Pierce seem to be the WRs I continue to gravitate towards for the Packers, in that order. Second tier is Olave, London, Watson, and Dotson for me, in that order I think. Dotson is increasingly mocked to GB, but he really seems like a counter to their typical WR type. I don't have Tolbert listed, but I would think that if they don't get 2 WR in the 1st/2nd, he'd be a strong possibility at 92.
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I'm taking the Waller stuff to be something blown out of proportion as well. I have no doubts that the Packers inquired on Waller as part of the Adams trade or separately since as they likely did/should do on any receiver that may hypothetically be available. But in this day of social media, something as simple as 'the Packers called to do due diligence and nothing more happened' quickly escalates into click-baity 'Packers trying to acquire....'. Doesn't mean the Packers won't pull off some type of deal this week, just that I don't think there's even smoke here, let alone fire.
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Yes, I can certainly see them following that logic as well. I’m just not sure if they’ll value the extra pick in a draft deep with second round graded talent vs. getting that 5th year with a 3rd first rounder.
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That’s hits on a good point- though they have two seconds, 25 picks come off the board between 28 and 53, and a lot of nice, useful talent will come off the board as a result. Yes, they could package both seconds and move up, but my guess is they’d prefer 4 players than 3. Might lead to a guy we don’t expect at 28 as a result.
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My one and only Packer draft prediction, which is quite likely to be wrong: The Packers are taking Travis Jones, and I think it’ll be at 28. If that does happen, my much more likely to be right opinion is that the pick will be destroyed by the mocker universe and they’ll quickly disappear when it proves an excellent pick.
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Then Seattle has to be comfortable with him walking next year after basically wasting a year of his value in what is literally a rebuilding year for them. If that's true, they're ragingly dumb.
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Well, perhaps we simply have different definitions of 'viable options'. Myers and two late-round guys that were waived out of camp their rookie seasons and aren't anything close to locks to make the initial roster doesn't seem like the best plan for depth. I'd think the Packers would be very interested in the versatility of a guy like Johnson who could immediately start inside if they want him to and can likely cover all of the line positions if they need him to.
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I think this is a really good point. Still can take a WR at 22 if the board shapes up that they feel they should. But certainly more flexibility to make a 'value' pick if someone slides and they feel they can address WR thereafter.
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From an age standpoint, you have to like that he's only 28 and still hypothetically the rare-ish FA receiver that should still have his prime legs underneath him. The bad news is that those legs and much of the rest of him are often hurt. He's living a lot off his draft position and great first two years in the league, but he's become a bit of a transient guy that hasn't had exceptional production in a while now. But from a Packer standpoint, familiarity with MLF should equate to a short learning curve on the system, and having Aaron throwing to him will be a nice plus. Seems like one of those 'out of nowhere resurgence' candidates, or a 'hurt in week 2 then out for the year' stories, and probably not much in between.
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Actually "up to $4 mil," so that's likely an incentive-laden deal.
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NFL Network has now confirmed that Watkins is on a FA visit to Green Bay today.
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Yeah, their only viable backup option on the roster at center is Myers with Jenkins hurt and Patrick’s versatility now in Chicago. I’d have zero issue with a highly graded IOL for versatility and depth on the line, as you can never have too many linemen. Especially if there’s belief that like Jenkins he can kick out to tackle competently in a pinch. I too would probably prefer a straight tackle if they go there early, but I wouldn’t be surprised or upset at all if they go Johnson or Green if they see value there.
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Woods' RAS scores are going to make it tough for him to slide as far as most of us hope he will. I think they'd need to take him at 92, if he's even still there. But I agree, I want him to be a Packer very, very much.
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Absolutely. A potentially dominant d-line presence to wreak havoc with Clark.
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Reports that the Packers hosted Devonte Wyatt on a visit yesterday.
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I’m less excited about Sanders than about 6 other late first/second round edge guys, but I’d be very happy with the other three picks.
