Fire him and hire me! http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif The truth is as an IT Manager myself, there is an air of "laziness" that people associate with IT services in general. The fact is, seeing as the systems have to be online during the day, a lot of maintenance work has to be done off hours. I leave work 30 minutes early a few times a week, but I make that up by having to dial into work at night and do some maintenance, as well as weekends when I can take the system completely down. But people don't see these things, they just see the system is online when they need it and that Lazy IT guy must be doing squat. But, from what you say, the guy just seems to be against the system and fights back. Put it on the line, he either plays as a team or he'll be shipped out.