adambr2

So what about the 80M we guaranteed him when he signed the deal in '18? That doesn't mean anything anymore because he won MVP in '20? No one seems to have an answer for this, how often do we need to extend him and how far out do we have to kick the can down the road for him to feel loved and appreciated?

Don't recall Peyton Manning being immediately unhappy with his contract when he went to Denver, played out of his mind and won an MVP.. I think we can all agree NFL contracts are more fluid than most sports, but asking for an adjustment on a long-term deal after every year where you outperform the deal is also not how it works. Rodgers was pretty disappointing in '19 which was probably a lot of the reason we drafted Love and we weren't knocking on his agent's door asking him to take a paycut.

Maybe that has to do with a contract extension not getting done last year, and then the MVP made Rodgers think that he can demand more guaranteed $ or a longer contract term. My point was to counter those who were saying that it was about the Packers not telling him that they intended on drafting a QB. Nowhere has Rodgers directly said that. Anything else is an inferential, subjective interpretation of vague words. Right, drafting Love was just an extension of the bigger issue of not getting a long term contract done. In Rodgers mind. As in, not only won't you commit to me long term but now you trade up to get a QB. It all goes together, drafting Love wasn't the problem, it just magnified it. Where is this coming from that they wouldn't commit to him long-term? He had 4 years left on his deal when they drafted Love. They were quite obviously not moving on because of the size of the potential cap hit for the following 2 years. How far exactly do they need to commit to satisfy Rodgers? Does he need to be extended out to age 45 and ensure that it would put them in salary cap hell if they move on before age 42? I don't remember this being a huge issue with Favre. Rodgers wasn't playing on a lame duck contract. He had a long-term deal. At minimum they weren't walking away for 2+ and if he played like he did in '20 they obviously weren't looking to move on anytime soon. Again, he had a long-term deal already. Does Rodgers need a clear 5 years where they can't walk away to satisfy his ego? He does realize they still need to run the business wisely and try not to make the possibility that his skills degrade in his 40s be a significantly painful event for the team?

I doubt he'll opt out. My only thought is that if he knows he'll be the 5th OF, he'll know that while he's getting $11M to be that 5th OF, he'll never sign another big deal (he'll be 32 next year). If he still believes in himself, he'd probably rather be a starter than a bench player. If he thinks he can find a starting job somewhere, next offseason would probably be his last chance to sign a multi-year deal. It will be up to him and his agent to decide on his option, and there is a good chance that he will pick up the option and be a Brewer next year. I just think that he'd be more likely to opt out if Taylor gets ahead of him on the depth chart and he knows that he will not get much playing time than he would if he goes into the year as a starter or even a platoon player. I don't know who is going to give JBJ anything more than a 1 year prove it deal anyway next year, and he's certainly not going to get 11M. So he'll exercise the option, barring a substantially good rest of the season. I can't think of a more obvious situation to do so. I don't think where he is listed on the depth chart is going to have any major impact on his choice. It's not like we are bludgeoning with better options where he has no chance to play his way into more playing time. Garcia came into 2021 with no clear starting spot and he's on pace for about 600 PAs. If JBJ plays like he did in 2020 his innings will go way up and he'll get another deal somewhere after '22.

He had just gotten an extension a year and a half before the 2020 draft. How often does he need to receive an extension to feel committed to? After every season?

Someone tell Eric Yardley that a guy with super mediocre stuff needs to be able to throw strikes.

Dude needs to go to AAA for at least 2 months. I was surprised they brought him back up so quick. Was hoping he would have struggled in AAA so he would be forced to revamp his process at the plate. I hope he can turn it around, but wow he is looking bad right now. The decision to bring him back up was terrible. He had a tiny run where he was hitting for power which he pretty much always has when he's hit and during that stretch he was still striking out 40% of his ABs in AAA. There was zero evidence that he had figured anything out on a sustainable level.

Please just trade Keston for whatever you can get now while he's still looked at like a "prospect" before we have to just DFA him in 2 years and get 2 years of terrible production first. He is so bad.

Seriously, this turd couldn't hit a thing at this park when he was wearing a Brewer uniform and now against us it's like he's Mike Trout.

Boyd cannot seem to figure Brewer hitters out.

I assumed you meant a moral victory.

Middle middle 94 MPH fastball. From a lefty. Strikes Hiura out.

That's what happens when you can't locate your pitches and are forced to choose between walking guys and just laying it down the middle. Freddy Peralta can get away with that at times, Eric Lauer cannot.

Lauer was due for a big correction. Up to a 4.56 ERA.

Now this is the Lauer I remember.

Not great location for an 0-2 pitch.

I assumed Babe Schoop is having a huge season, since he seems totally unretireable at the plate. Nope, -0.5 WAR.

Think that's probably harsh. At the very least he's a cheap backup outfielder for 3 seasons. You don't want him starting for any length of time but as a fill in for a few weeks and pinch hitter/runner and defensive replacement, he's fine. Probably so. I don't mean to imply that he has no value. He'll probably be a fine 4th/5th outfielder. I just don't expect him to ever develop into more than that.

Taylor seems to me like he's going to be a classic AAAA player. Not going to benefit from further development at AAA, but just not going to have sustained success at MLB.

I have to disagree. If a team trades for Rodgers, they don't need to absorb his bonus, just the 25M annual base. If a team really wants Rodgers, that 25M will not stand in their way, they'll find a way to make it work. Additionally, Rodgers sitting a year is not an attractive outcome for his trade value. He'll be going into his age 39 season and out of football for a year. Coming off an MVP season is not the same as being a year removed from one. There will still be offers, but they'll be less than right now. There's no reason to let him sit a year first and then trade him. Either stand your ground and make him retire or trade him. My personal preference is the trade.

https://fb.watch/5S2dyxti3i/ I never saw this last year. This is the worst ball/strike call. Ever.

How did the bunt win us the game? Narvaez scores the winning run regardless of whether he's on 2nd or 3rd on that Urias knock. I agree with everything else, but that line seems like an attempt to lend credence to the sac bunt where none is found here. Same with the JBJ extra innings RBI the other night, the successful sac bunt was zero factor in the win.

There aren't any. Ramirez is one of the few that I would and I don't even consider him to be realistic. Something like Eduardo Escobar is probably the most realistic but I obviously wouldn't give up the farm for him.

This comparison is just bizarre. First, you're comparing a first ballot HOFer to a very good young player. More importantly, teams use numerous CBs on the field at the same exact time. A team using more than one QB ever is almost strictly limited to a Taysom Hill gadget type as a 2nd QB and even then exists on maybe 1 or 2 out of 32 teams. You're comparing an apple to a new york strip steak, and I think you know that.

I don't want to trade Ashby or Mitchell but would if it is a difference maker at a position of need aka J. Ramirez If Jose Ramirez becomes available there are going to be a lot bigger chips from other teams thrown on the table than Aaron Ashby and Garrett Mitchell.