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FanGraphs trade value series is a pretty good publicly available proxy of perceived value within the industry & how it evolves over time. The 2017 list was published around the All Star break before we acquired Yelich, he came in #27. The 2018 list was published around the All Star break before Christian broke out, he came in #22. The 2019 list was published around the All Star break with a year of MVP caliber performance & before the broken knee cap, he came in #7. The 2020 list was published in August of 2020 after the injury & contract extension, he came in at #15. Will be interesting to see how much Yelich plays over the next two months, how he performs while on the field & how that impacts his ranking for the 2021 list. That seems about right to me. No doubt it was significantly higher after his 2 years with us where he broke out. I would have thought the extension was a fairly immediate hit to it despite the fact that it was considered team friendly.

I'll leave it at, I strongly believe if the Brewers had been in a rebuilding position and had chosen to publicly shop Christian Yelich, they absolutely could have and would have received stronger offers than what they gave up to the Marlins. It is obviously you prerogative to believe otherwise. I also understand why they extended him instead and enjoy that my team is in a position of contention where they are looking to acquire current great players rather than get rid of them.

I literally suggested the name of a hypothetical post-2019 contending team in my original reply to you on this in post #73. And when did I ever imply that these hypothetical prospects wouldn't have growing pains or risk failing? Never. I simply disputed your contention that if the Brewers had shopped Yelich post-2019, they would have received less than what they gave up for him. Nothing more. I know, and I chose to ignore it. How many dynamite prospects did the Padres give up this off-season to reload their team Yu Darvish, Blake Snell, Joe Musgrove? (Luis Patino #3, Blake Hunt #25 for Snell, Hudson Head #20 and David Bednar #30 for Musgrove, Preciado #22 and Mena #23 for Darvish...according to MLB 2019 Top 30 prospects). You're citing a the Padres as a hypothetical example, of a team willing to give up a tasty prospect haul to get a star veteran, when they made three such trades in the last six months and gave up only one player who was in their top ten and amongst the top 100 in the game in the process. You're right the Brewers could've swapped Yelich off after 2019 and gotten a big haul... of some other team's second tier prospects that wouldn't have helped in the short-run and would take years to learn if they help in the long run. (And for what it's worth Miami got Yamamoto plus Brinson #1, Isan Diaz #4, Harrison #20 for Yelich according to Sickels's 2017 list) So you say you chose to ignore my post, then you (falsely) contend later that I didn't address what contending team might be interested? That makes no sense. I'm well aware of what Miami got. Yelich was definitely worth more than what we got after his first two seasons with us. You're comparing apples to oranges with Darvish, Snell and Musgrove. Darvish had a much larger contract. Snell was two years away removed from elite production and Musgrove neither ever had that level of production and had half the control of Yelich. None of the three was a position player coming off two MVP caliber seasons.

Neither of those sentences are very believable. I doubt if Braun returns that him and the team couldn't work out the financial side of it and no way would the team be focused on "pushing" Yelich to come back. I would be perfectly interested in a Braun return though. We could use a RH bat.

Tough break for Corey either way. Seems like a great guy, gets taken down with TJ, has to make it all the way back and now this. Really seems like him and Jimmy got a raw deal although I suppose that's just baseball. (Though who knows where Jimmy's career and bank account is now if he gets drafted by an AL team) I only wish they had ended up somewhere other than on the Dodgers so it would be easier to root for their comebacks and success.

Going to have to assume Taylor gets a start for sure. Avi really deserves a day off after yesterday, but it's probably not the best day for it. Man, I really didn't realize how slim the pickings are for RH bats on this roster until we finally faced a lefty starter. Might need to add another righty bat at some point this season.

I literally suggested the name of a hypothetical post-2019 contending team in my original reply to you on this in post #73. And when did I ever imply that these hypothetical prospects wouldn't have growing pains or risk failing? Never. I simply disputed your contention that if the Brewers had shopped Yelich post-2019, they would have received less than what they gave up for him. Nothing more.

I said at the beginning of the season that Bogdanovic might not even be an upgrade from DDV. I was so wrong.

If I criticize one thing I will usually not criticize the opposite of that thing. That is true.

Just playing terrible late. I think Atlanta is on a 30-10 run. These are games you just can't drop this late if you have any shot at the top seed.

Well that's one way to make sure you don't have to hustle.

Breaking it open!

Now let's get it done this time and maybe save Hader.

LOL@Sogard for looking at the umpire and saying "Nooo" at that strike. Yes, yes it was, Eric. Not even close to being a ball.

Absolutely inexcusable baserunning from Garcia. Avi should be benched.

In no way was I expecting to see Woodruff come out for the 7th.

Great job Woodruff!

Robertson had the lead runner at 2nd. Make the flip over. They had him easily. When you're hitting half your weight you better make the plays on defense.

McKinney has quietly crashed back down to earth. I know we've had injuries, but he isn't someone that belongs in the everyday lineup this much.

No matter how much the names on the backs of the jerseys change over the years, the Brewers always strikeout with the best of them.

Freaking inexcusable. That's twice now today.

Shaw and Hiura should probably not bad next to each other in the order.

The early season Shaw honeymoon is definitely long over.

Cubs now asking for trouble! They certainly are. Now Baez asking for more.

Way to get out of it!!