adambr2
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Blocking speciality TEs are a dime a dozen, you certainly don't reach for one in the 3rd round.
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I can wrap my head around why they took Love but these last two are just baffling to me to take a complementary running back and H-back TE. It's like they are building their offense completely toward a run heavy offense in an era when passing has never been so important.
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I guess Gute probably figures if Love doesn't pan out, he's going to be fired anyway, so he may as well go nuts.
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We've managed to really reach with 2 picks and sacrifice a pick for the one where we didn't reach. The experts don't know everything but this draft is going to be pretty much universally panned and graded near the bottom by every draft guru out there.
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Usually even in a Packer draft that I don't like, I can find one pick that I can point to and say "I really like that pick." Not this draft. I understand the Love pick, but other than that I absolutely hate this draft for us. If Gute were David Stearns, I'd be willing to just step back and say we just need to have faith. But I don't think Gute is at a point where his reputation precedes him.
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True.
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At this point for all I know they're taking Jake Fromm here.
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Maybe it's my own recency bias, but I feel like our recent track record with "athletes" (Quinten Rollins, Datone Jones, etc) has been quite bad.
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Curious as to whether or not we would have taken Mims if he was available. My guess is we would have traded up for Mims if we really wanted him, and so Dillon would have been our pick either way.
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Lacy didn't have near the athletic profile Dillon does. Dillon is more a Derrick Henry/Eddie George type. I think there's some recency bias here. Lacy was considered the best running back by most pundits in the 2013 draft. He was considered a pretty well rounded prospect who could block, catch and run fairly well for a guy his size. I don't think it's accurate to downplay Lacy now while comparing Dillon, who was considered more of a Day 3 prospect until shooting up draft boards quite recently, to the best running back in the NFL.
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It's not just the wins....it's more that the two best players on the team before yesterday was our QB and our RB....and we just drafted a QB and a RB in the first 2 rounds. Also, it's kinda tough to play 2 QBs and RBs at the same time, so that makes it even more odd. There is definitely room for multiple RBs in today's NFL. The 49ers just rode that recipe to the Super Bowl. I think they rode that offensive line into the Super Bowl. There's nothing particularly special about Mostert, Coleman or Breida. Small trucks could have been driven through some of those holes in the NFC Championship Game.
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Yes, it is okay to think out of the box sometimes. Gute seems to be doing just that with his picks so far. Fans seem to be overwhelmingly NOT OK with it. It's not what I would have done. I would have probably been more active in free agency, maybe tried to swing a trade for OJ Howard, and tried to build for now. They were close but yet a long ways away last year, if that makes any sense. So if they were going to go for it, some big moves were in order. I understand going this direction, though. It sucks for right now because it seems like we're taking 2 steps back to take 3 forward later. Barring Rodgers just having a major career resurgence and playing like an MVP, it's tough to see him reaching another Super Bowl here. But I do understand Gute's responsibility to balance the long-term needs of the franchise with the short-term.
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Joseph, well put. I agree that salary cap constraints would completely prevent Rodgers from getting traded now given that info ... I do think in 2 years it could be a different conversation.
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No, I actually was just seriously spitballing it. I'm not afraid to debate unconventional strategies that may seem extreme if the long-term payoff is possible. I do realize it has very little chance of happening, but I don't mind discussing hypotheticals that seem unlikely. I'm sure the chance of Brett Favre being traded sounded nuts to most back in 2005. But if you'd rather just roll out the emojis and laugh and tell me what you think I'm doing rather than productively respond to the question, that's fine. You do you. I guess I should’ve just responded a productive “yes” to your original post and you wouldn’t be all twisted up right now. Nah, I'm good. I just don't know why people have a tendency at times to laugh in the face of anything that goes against the grain. It's sports. Crazy things happen and sometimes crazy things even work out for the best. I think it's okay to think outside the box sometimes.
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No, I actually was just seriously spitballing it. I'm not afraid to debate unconventional strategies that may seem extreme if the long-term payoff is possible, and this draft has certainly been anything but conventional. I do realize it has very little chance of happening, but I don't mind discussing hypotheticals that seem unlikely. I'm sure the chance of Brett Favre being traded sounded nuts to most back in 2005. But if you'd rather just roll out the emojis and laugh and tell me what I'm doing rather than productively respond to the question, that's fine. You do you.
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This was a good one. Instead of just giggling, why not explain why you think that would be a bad idea? They obviously drafted Love to be the QB of the future. Aaron's play has clearly slipped the last few years. They're probably looking at a 2-3 year window with Rodgers now before they'd either have to turn to Love or trade him. If Rodgers wanted out and you got massive offers for him now, why wouldn't it be worth considering?
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Yes. Hypothetically...If the Raiders come calling with some crazy overpay, say 4 firsts and 2 seconds, you're saying no?
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Would it really be that nuts at this point to trade Rodgers for a massive haul, sign Jameis Winston to a 2 year deal and move forward? I mean honestly, why not at this point?
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So we got two guys with our 1st and 2nd round picks who have cemented starters in front of them and should barely see the field in 2020. No receiver, no linemen, and no help on defense. I guess Gute is essentially admitting that 13-3 was a fluke and looking toward the future, because this 2020 team in no way shape or form is going to be better than our already massively overperforming 2019 team.
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Gross.
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Jefferson and Cleveland are good picks. Gladney profiles as a nickel corner, though. Jets just took Mims. darn. Yeah, too bad. Big dropoff at WR after Mims. Jones would be a good, albeit boring pick for us now. Baun is intriguing to me. I just don't see how he fits, but we haven't really let that stop us when drafting defenders the last decade.
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On paper the Vikings are really having a fantastic draft.
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Is it just me, or does Gute trade up just a few spots a LOT? Seems like he locks in on one particular guy and panics if has any inkling that his pick is at risk.
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Haven't seen a whole lot of people making this argument. Both of those that you bolded have literally been made in this thread. "In theory we are set at QB for another 15-20 years" "Qb is the most important position …….. We now have two, two really good QB."
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13-3 was definitely a mirage. It happened, but the 2019 Packers were far from a true 13-3 quality team. I could go either way on that. While I maintain it was a mirage, there's enough parity in the NFL where things tend to be a crapshoot from year to year. Maybe Rodgers has a big resurgence in 2020, and maybe the defense improved greatly. I doubt it, but who knows. So if they wanted to go add an OJ Howard, maybe trade for Ngakoue and try to really make a run, I would definitely understand it. Going this route, if they have an 8-8 type season and miss the playoffs, which I think is absolutely a possibility, I'd completely understand going the other way and dealing Rodgers after '20 or '21 if they were happy with Love's progress and Rodgers was still playing at a high enough level to bring a significant return.