Well here I go. This was not as clear cut of a case for me as it was everyone else. All the tests(Black Ink, Red Ink(?), HOF Standards, ect) say he should be in. I compare him to Sutton & Niekro & I think very comparable so he should be in.I look at his wins & k's & think this guy should be in. Then I sat down & really looked at his stats. 250 losses, 7 seasons with 15 or more losses & 3 seventeen loss seasons in a row. .534 winning percentage is good but not dominating.One time 20 game winner(although he did have 10 seasons with 15 wins or more) one time k leader. again good but not dominating.He also posted one actual bad season in the Homer dome so I dont really take that into account. Then I thought of all the talk of Rafeal Palmerio(sp?)(pre steroid talk). And how he was never really dominent even though his numbers were very good if not excellent.Reminds me of Bert. He pitched in a different era when pitch counts did not matter as much(if at all). He was either a gamer or had health on his side or a little of both.He pitched for a few above average teams & many average teams if not below average teams. Often he was the best picher on these teams.Many small market teams probally hut his chances. My conclusion: I believe it takes a combination of health, stats, skill & some luck to make it in the Hall. Bert had some of it all. I vote yes to put him in. As I said before he pitched in a different time. Even though they will not have the same stats as Bert,I think we will have to seriously take in considertion David Wells, Tom Glavine & Mike Mussina for hall consideration in the future.