Any other thoughts? I have a few... Jaybird -- I know you are a newbie SABR guy -- If we sat down for a few drinks, and you told me you recently joined SABR, I could do one of two things, I could make you feel stupid by overwhelming you with my superior knowledge of the history of the game, or I could welcome you aboard and encourage your new interest. Which would you prefer? This thread comes off as jackassish, and I would hate for someone that is new or rediscovering the Brewers to read it and think that your post is representative at all of longtime Brewer fans. I was sitting at a campfire the other night, and it was so refreshing to be talking about the Brewers in August, yeah -- I had to answer questions like "Why did we trade Jenkins?" but, so what? I got to talk baseball instead of listening to people talk about Nascar. These casual fans that you are ripping on, are people like my mom, and other members of my family and friends circle, that are just looking to support Wisconsin sports and are legitimately giddy to have a team to follow, love the new park and enjoy the new crop of talent. I know I can be pessimistic about the Brewers, but I am sincerely excited about the record crowds, and Brewer gear I see around town. You seem sort of sour, and for the life of me I cannot understand why. Get pissed off at communists, Osama Bin Laden, boy bands, or Kevin Costner... but getting whizzed at our expanding fanbase seems misguided -- and I know you are a better dude than that.