And they could easily not outhit him. Here's some things that I look at. 1. Are we getting younger talent back? No, Baldelli is still only 25 but Lidge is 30 and Ensberg is 31. Hall just turned 27, Turnbow will turn 29 in about a week and Villanueva just turned 23. 2. Are we getting cheaper talent back? No, Ensberg and Lidge will cost more than Turnbow and Hall and Villanueva will be cheaper than Baldelli. 3. Are we getting better talent back? No at least not in my opinion. Hall is a very good player, better than both Baldelli and Ensberg, at least imo. Turnbow and Lidge is basically a wash and I'd much rather keep a young pitcher who showed a lot of promise last year. 4. How long before these players reach free agency? After 2008: Lidge and Ensberg After 2009: Hall; possibly Baldelli if option is declined, if not then 2011 Villanueva is a free agent after 2011 I believe. So basically we get older, more expensive, less talented and won't get to keep them as long.