Hardy vs Weeks defensively

[Brawndo the Thirst Mutilat]

Hardy was runner up (to Jimmy Rollins) for a 2008 Fielding Bible award for best MLB SS. He did lose by more votes than any other second place finisher, but it's certainly still worth noting that a 10 person panel that reads like a who's who among the SABR stats crowd (including Bill James, John Dewan, Rob Neyer, Tom Tango, and Joe Posnaski) thought he was the second best defensive SS in the majors in 2008.

 

Link: http://baseballanalysts.c...08/10/the_new_testame.php

[Ennder]

Hardy was runner up (to Jimmy Rollins) for a 2008 Fielding Bible award for best MLB SS....

Also of note from the plus/minus link in that article we find that Weeks was not in the worst 2B list. Cano, Kinsler, Castillo, Lopez, Durham and Kent were all worse than him at the very least.

 

And here is another link to ratings...

 

http://www.beyondtheboxsc...est-second-basemen-of-200

 

Weeks comes in at #14 with slightly positive defensive value as well.

Edited November 1, 2008 by Ennder

[endaround]

PMRs have been released for MIs for 2008:

 

http://www.baseballmusings.com/archives/030078.php

 

http://www.baseballmusings.com/archives/030070.php

 

Besides showing that Vizquel should clearly be in someone's plans next year it has Hardy as the best everyday NL SS. It also shows that Aviles was very good in the AL. (Scutaro kind of gets screwed here because he's a full time player moving between 2B and SS). That said the difference between Hardy and the average SS is 3%. As for Weeks? He grades out at average while Durham is as bad as expected.

[rluzinski]

Just remember that these play-by-play defensive metrics don't care about the back end of double plays at all.

[Ennder]

But Weeks DPT and DPS stats are pretty much right in line with other 2B. He might be a little weak at them but I doubt it is anywhere near as bad as people make it out to be.

[rluzinski]

I agree. I don't think he's as bad as many people think but it should at least be considered.