Wallus' 2024 Payroll Blueprint

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Signings

Bring Santana back for a 1 year, 5 million deal

Sign Yariel Rodriguez to a 5 year, 70 million deal

Sign Jack Flaherty to a 1 year, 8 million deal, club option for extra year at 12 million

Trades

Burnes to Phillies for Painter

Peralta and Williams to Orioles for Mayo and Westburg

Adames to Dodgers for Sheehan

 

My Thought Process

I am ready for a soft rebuild and this year is the year to do it. We can take a chance on Rodriguez as he is young enough and we are dropping a ton of payroll other places. Same thing with Flaherty, take a chance and maybe you can flip him for more pieces at the deadline. I like Santana for the clubhouse with a lot of young guys. In terms of trades, we are trading our core for solid prospects that hopefully will mostly pan out. I think you would see a team that wouldn't compete but would take their lumps and gain experience. I would look to take some of the "savings" and extend many of these young guys with the exception of Turang.

• C: William Contreras ($0.77M)
• 1B: Carlos Santana ($5.00M)
• 2B: Jordan Westburg ($0.77M)
• 3B: Tyler Black ($0.77M)
• SS: Brice Turang ($0.77M)
• LF: Sal Frelick ($0.77M)
• CF: Garret Mitchell ($0.77M)
• RF: Joey Wiemer ($0.77M)
• DH: Christian Yelich ($22.0M)
• Bench OF: Tyrone Taylor ($1.70M)
• Utility: Owen Miller ($0.77M)
• Utility: Andruw Monasterio ($0.77M)
• Backup C: Payton Henry ($0.77M)
• SP1: Yariel Rodriguez ($14M)
• SP2: Jack Flaherty ($8M)
• SP3: Emmet Sheehan ($0.77M)
• SP4: Adrian Houser ($5.60M)
• SP5: Colin Rea ($3.5M)
• RP: Joel Payamps ($1.70M)
• CL: Abner Uribe ($0.77M)
• RP: Hoby Milner ($1.70M)
• RP: Justin Yeager ($0.77M)
• RP: JB Bukauskas ($0.77M)
• RP: Trevor Megill ($0.77M)
• RP: Elvis Peguero ($0.77M)
• RP: Bryse Wilson ($1.30M)

Way under payroll.

[Brewcrew82]

16 minutes ago, wallus said:

Signings

Bring Santana back for a 1 year, 5 million deal

Sign Yariel Rodriguez to a 5 year, 70 million deal

Sign Jack Flaherty to a 1 year, 8 million deal, club option for extra year at 12 million

Trades

Burnes to Phillies for Painter

Peralta and Williams to Orioles for Mayo and Westburg

Adames to Dodgers for Sheehan

 

My Thought Process

I am ready for a soft rebuild and this year is the year to do it. We can take a chance on Rodriguez as he is young enough and we are dropping a ton of payroll other places. Same thing with Flaherty, take a chance and maybe you can flip him for more pieces at the deadline. I like Santana for the clubhouse with a lot of young guys. In terms of trades, we are trading our core for solid prospects that hopefully will mostly pan out. I think you would see a team that wouldn't compete but would take their lumps and gain experience. I would look to take some of the "savings" and extend many of these young guys with the exception of Turang.

• C: William Contreras ($0.77M)
• 1B: Carlos Santana ($5.00M)
• 2B: Jordan Westburg ($0.77M)
• 3B: Tyler Black ($0.77M)
• SS: Brice Turang ($0.77M)
• LF: Sal Frelick ($0.77M)
• CF: Garret Mitchell ($0.77M)
• RF: Joey Wiemer ($0.77M)
• DH: Christian Yelich ($22.0M)
• Bench OF: Tyrone Taylor ($1.70M)
• Utility: Owen Miller ($0.77M)
• Utility: Andruw Monasterio ($0.77M)
• Backup C: Payton Henry ($0.77M)
• SP1: Yariel Rodriguez ($14M)
• SP2: Jack Flaherty ($8M)
• SP3: Emmet Sheehan ($0.77M)
• SP4: Adrian Houser ($5.60M)
• SP5: Colin Rea ($3.5M)
• RP: Joel Payamps ($1.70M)
• CL: Abner Uribe ($0.77M)
• RP: Hoby Milner ($1.70M)
• RP: Justin Yeager ($0.77M)
• RP: JB Bukauskas ($0.77M)
• RP: Trevor Megill ($0.77M)
• RP: Elvis Peguero ($0.77M)
• RP: Bryse Wilson ($1.30M)

Way under payroll.

A return of Mayo and Westburg for Peralta AND Williams (who each have multiple years of team control) is pretty light. I think you need to add another major piece from the O's. 

I also don't think we have much precedent to think the Brewers will be involved in the Yariel Rodriguez sweepstakes. Just hasn't been their MO. 

[wallus]

1 minute ago, Brewcrew82 said:

A return of Mayo and Westburg for Peralta AND Williams (who each have multiple years of team control) is pretty light. I think you need to add another major piece from the O's. 

I also don't think we have much precedent to think the Brewers will be involved in the Yariel Rodriguez sweepstakes. Just hasn't been their MO. 

I like the Orioles young players and value them higher than most probably. They also don't seem to want to trade those young guys so I am willing to "overpay".

The Brewers have signed International players before but Rodriguez isn't high profile enough to pick his destination imo.

[Brewcrew82]

6 minutes ago, wallus said:

I like the Orioles young players and value them higher than most probably. They also don't seem to want to trade those young guys so I am willing to "overpay".

The Brewers have signed International players before but Rodriguez isn't high profile enough to pick his destination imo.

That would be a terrible strategy by Arnold to "overpay" with guys who have multiple years of control. If the value demand isn't met, then you keep them until someone is willing to meet your price. 

Peralta and Williams together would be comparable in value to when the Nationals traded Juan Soto. 

[wallus]

Just now, Brewcrew82 said:

That would be a terrible strategy by Arnold to "overpay" with guys who have multiple years of control. If the value demand isn't met, then you keep them until someone is willing to meet your price. 

You lose value every day of the season. Keeping them in a rebuild is a terrible strategy.

[Brewcrew82]

Just now, wallus said:

You lose value every day of the season. Keeping them in a rebuild is a terrible strategy.

Not really for guys who have multiple years of control. 3 more years in Peralta's case.

Again, Peralta and Williams together is comparable in value to when the Nationals traded Juan Soto to the Padres and got their haul. 

What is by far the worst strategy is trading guys for less than what they're worth when you don't even need to trade them. That's how you end up like the A's. 

[wallus]

3 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Not really for guys who have multiple years of control. 3 more years in Peralta's case.

Again, Peralta and Williams together is comparable in value to when the Nationals traded Juan Soto to the Padres and got their haul. 

What is by far the worst strategy is trading guys for less than what they're worth when you don't even need to trade them. That's how you end up like the A's. 

You have a lot more faith in Freddy staying healthy than I do. The history of small guys with high effort deliveries isn't great. An injured pitcher gets you nothing (Woodruff). Devin is awesome obviously but he will be getting expensive like Hader soon.

You hold arbitrary value websites in much higher regard than I do. Mayo, Westburg, Chourio, Mitchell, Contreras, Black, etc would be an awesome core.

[Brewcrew82]

2 hours ago, wallus said:

You have a lot more faith in Freddy staying healthy than I do. The history of small guys with high effort deliveries isn't great. An injured pitcher gets you nothing (Woodruff). Devin is awesome obviously but he will be getting expensive like Hader soon.

You hold arbitrary value websites in much higher regard than I do. Mayo, Westburg, Chourio, Mitchell, Contreras, Black, etc would be an awesome core.

They’re not arbitrary value websites. It would be solid core but we still can and should do better. Orioles might be reluctant to part with their prospects, but it’s the price you have to pay. 

Freddy is healthy right now and controllable for 3 more years after coming off a second half where he was arguably the best pitcher in baseball. Devin is arguably the best (top 3 at minimum) closer in the game and is controllable for 2 more years.

That’s a Juan Soto combination of value. Trading guys for less than their value, especially when they’re controllable like Peralta and Williams are, is right out of the A’s playbook.