8/8/05 - Cardinals (Morris) @ Brewers (Vampire) - 7:05 CST

[DHarris34Phan]

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5 innings too late. Hmm. Russel with basesloaded or with guy on 2nd? hmmm.

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Exactly...I still would have rather seen Russell then. Let's hope he can get it done now though.

[Shampoo4U]

PH== 0 for 11 with 8 K's

[brewers19]

Not bringing in King? Wow.

[DougJones43]

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and please don't try to tell me we would already be ahead had he hit in the 4th

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so we're supposed to answer you without using the obvious reason? ok

 

i'll take branyan with bases loaded and 1 out anyday over 1 on and 2 outs, regardless of inning.

[ThePurpleStorm]

Would have rather seen him in the 4th or whatever it was.

[PeaveyFury]

Ack. That was the pitch for Russell to crush.

[NeedMoreFans]

Would have rather had 3TO hit in the 4th with the bases loaded and 1 out than right now. Back in that inning, even a simple hit scores 2. Now a base hit scores only 1. If he strikes out in the 4th, same result as we had with Magruder batting.

[ThePurpleStorm]

God freaking darnit

[DHarris34Phan]

That would have been more productive than Magruder in the 4th

[H0FFY]

It is so, so difficult to have an intelligent discussion or even an intelligent disagreement when the people refuse to listen to facts. You can disagree with the facts, but to just play games with words is a joke... very unsatisfying discussion naivin.

[MoneyballMan]

Well, thanks for coming ladies and gentlemen...that should wrap it up.

[lithium75]

Fanning the flames, that would have been a sac fly in the 4th, now it's nothing

[ThePurpleStorm]

How about a little NY magic? We got the top of the order coming up. Clark is due to get on base and Weeks is due for a dinger. I feel it.

[ThePurpleStorm]

Well, got to get out of this inning first. Won't have a chance if Jorge can't throw strikes.

[brewmann04]

big difference between the mets and the Cards.

 

We not there yet when you can"t beat the Big Boys

[MoneyballMan]

What a great opportunity wasted. Taking the first game from Morris would have been pretty sweet. And with FLA losing two, the Cubs losing, it would have been nice to be the one WC contender with a win this evening.

 

Well thanks, Mr. Schroeder - "Tough part of the game here. Just can't give up any more runs" Very heady.

[7rebmun]

I'm placing all the blame squarely on BC tonight. Fair or unfair, that's what I'm doing. See ya'll tomorrow. Big game tomorrow . . . we can get to .500

[naivin]

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very unsatisfying discussion naivin.

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Right back at ya Slick. It is equally frustrating to try to discuss these things with people who just assume that Russel Branyan would have automatically delivered and things would have somehow turned out different (once the move in question didn't work). For the record he is now 0-12 as a PH, but you're probably right. Since you don't like Ned Yost, it is a completely safe assumption that Russ would have delivered no less than a single in the 4th.

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[homer]

Uh, guys? We still have an at bat left.

[DougJones43]

so, let's see. back in st. louis, magruder hits with the tying run on while jenkins rides pine, later to single with nobody on.

 

today, magruder hits over branyan with the bases loaded, and branyan later hits what would have been a sac fly.

 

maybe melvin needs to remove the temptation for yost to use magruder in key situations, much like he did with phelps.

[Weirdos19]

We can argue it because we said it before Magruder got into the box. Other than a couple of you guys, it was the consensus that Branyan should have hit.

 

Then Magruder hit the ball about 60 ft before it fell just short of the first baseman!!

 

We were right and you are telling us we were wrong.

[naivin]

BTW, we can argue pinch hitters all night long, especially because none of them came through, but 6 runs (so far), and a starter unable to get out of the 4th inning. That's the reason for this loss.

[ThePurpleStorm]

Sheesh. He almost threw it over his head.

[DougJones43]

nobody is saying branyan would have positively delivered. but don't you agree that he would have given us a much better chance at a big inning, or at least 1 run? so how can you defend batting our worst hitter during the best scoring opportunity we saw all night???

[H0FFY]

It shows how far we have to come... I know they are St Louis and all that...

 

but their D has been a wee bit better

their in game managing a wee bit better

their starter stunk a little, but ours was stinkier

their relief pitchers were a little better

 

So, all in all, you lose by a couple of runs.

 

It has been a game to just show that were not there yet. Just not that winning sharpness. But I think our skill levels are moving up and our scrapiness is pretty good, we just are not sharp.