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    Welcome back to Brewer Fanatic's 2023 top 20 prospect rundown! In this edition, we will be taking a deep dive look at Carlos F Rodriguez. Rodriguez comes in as the number seven prospect in the system, as voted on and compiled by the Brewer Fanatic community.

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    #7 RHP Carlos F Rodriguez (Biloxi Shuckers, Nashville Sounds)
    The Brewers selected Rodriguez in the sixth round of the 2021 MLB Draft. They took him out of Florida Southwestern State Junior College, adding him to a growing list of Junior College pitchers that have succeeded, or are on their way to success, in the Brewers system. Rodriguez is a six-pitch pitcher who throws the kitchen sink at hitters and keeps them off balance, but he is more than a “junkballer.” A number of his pitches come in as above-average offerings.

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    What to Like:
    Rodriguez throws three different “fastballs.” He throws a four-seam fastball, a sinker, and a cutter. The four-seamer is a riding fastball with which he can throw up in the zone and miss bats. He throws the four-seamer in the 90-93 range and can get up to 96 on occasion. His sinker moves quite a bit, and it is the pitch he gets most of his ground balls. The sinker sits in a similar velocity band to the four-seam. His cutter is a bit slower, usually in the upper 80s, around 86-88 most days. He uses it to keep the ball off the barrel. It isn’t a big swing-and-miss offering for him now, but he can get soft contact with it, especially against left-handed hitters.

    He also throws three different offspeed pitches along with the three fastballs. His offspeed offerings include a changeup, two different breaking balls, a slider, and a curveball. The changeup is probably his best pitch out of any of the six. Usually thrown in the 82-85 MPH range, it’s his go-to swing-and-miss pitch, and he can generate ground balls with it. It pairs well with his sinker. The slider is his second-best offspeed pitch. With a velocity usually hovering around 80 MPH, it shows flashes of being another big-time swing-and-miss pitch, but with some inconsistencies in the command of the pitch, the results he gets have a lot of variance. His curveball is mainly used to “steal a strike” by landing a slow one in the zone. When he’s throwing it as a swing-and-miss pitch, the velocity is usually around 73-75 MPH. When he wants to land it for a strike, he has dropped into the 60s at times. It isn’t a great pitch on its own, but he can use it to help all his other offerings and to give a hitter more velocity bands to think about.

    What to Work On:
    As mentioned earlier, Rodriguez’s slider is on the precipice of being a really good pitch. Continuing to build consistency with that pitch will be very important for him, as it can be his best put-away offering against right-handed hitters. Cutters and curveballs are two pitches the Brewers have done a great job developing during the Stearns/Arnold Era, and for Rodriguez, there is room to grow with both of those pitches. Sharpening up the curveball, in particular, would go a long way toward adding another swing-and-miss offering to his repertoire. With his feel to spin the ball, that type of improvement isn’t out of the question. Rodriguez’s walk numbers improved dramatically after the Southern League went away from the pre-tacked baseball and back to the MLB baseballs. However, his season total walks per nine number of four is probably too high for a player who doesn’t throw in the upper 90s with his velocity. His number of 2.9 per nine, after they changed the baseballs, would be much more in line with where he will likely need to be at the MLB level. 

    What’s Next:
    Sans the pitch-timing theatrics, Rodriguez shows some traits similar to Johnny Cueto on the mound. He received some invaluable experience by pitching for Nicaragua in the World Baseball Classic this past spring and doing quite well against an MLB-laden Puerto Rico lineup. Rodriguez made one start in Triple-A to finish the 2023 season, and it seems likely he will find himself back there to start 2024. He will almost certainly be in Major League camp this spring, and it will be a great opportunity for him to get continued reps against MLB level hitters and to work with the MLB catchers. Assuming he does return to Triple-A to begin the season, Rodriguez’s fastest path to an MLB roster spot is likely by proving that the walk numbers, after the change in baseballs, are more indicative of what he truly is as a pitcher than the ones he had shown with the pre-tacked balls. 

    What are your thoughts on Carlos F Rodriguez? What are you hoping to see from him in 2024? Let us know in the comments!

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    2 hours ago, Smichaelis9 said:

    However, his season total walks per nine number of four is probably too high for a player who doesn’t throw in the upper 90s with his velocity.

    Would you agree though, that his K/BB ratio is still really strong? He was 6th among Southern League qualifiers. Just looking at the numbers, it seems like he could use a pitch, probably the sinker, to induce more soft contact early in counts? I don't like his FB/GB ratio either.

    (edit to add:  I'm very excited about Rodriguez. I'm very high on him.)

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    3 minutes ago, Playing Catch said:

    Would you agree though, that his K/BB ratio is still really strong? He was 6th among Southern League qualifiers. Just looking at the numbers, it seems like he could use a pitch, probably the sinker, to induce more soft contact early in counts? I don't like his FB/GB ratio either.

    (edit to add:  I'm very excited about Rodriguez. I'm very high on him.)

    I would definitely agree with that. I do worry that the strikeout numbers will come down a bit at the MLB level and walks are less likely to naturally decline at higher levels than strikeouts, so I think it will take genuine improvement in that regard to keep the K/BB ratio looking as good as it did this year.

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    The lone Triple-A Nashville showing was, quite simply, very rough. But, it also was a positive in that it showcased what that bump up in competition is going to need: sharpening of the tools. No more getting away with the walks. It will be a very necessary assignment to get him truly pro ready. In that outing versus Jacksonville Rodriguez walked four, hit one, and gave up five knocks in 4 2/3 IP. You'd have to go back to mid-May @ Chattanooga to find a comparably ineffective start by his standards. He just wasn't sharp - his pitches were sailing...he was likely over-amped or just off. And, it will be challenge he needs to evolve his already advanced arsenal to MLB-caliber.

    BUT, and this is what I harp on with Rodriguez: he will play the entirety of 2024 as his age 22 season. He's 2 1/2 years younger (with room to season) than LHP Robert Gasser. He's literally only six months older than Misiorowski. Sky is the limit here.

    Much to what you point to above is key to that growth. That change up is an amazing pitch. It's surreal how that pitch sneaks up and then sinks down past bats. I'd put it in the top 10 pitches of the Brewers Minor Leagues. Which, come to think of it, would be a very fun article: The Top 10 Best Pitches in the Brewers Minor League System.

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    Rodriguez's is an interesting statistical profile. For a flyball pitcher who gives up a lot of pulled contact, he surrenders surprisingly few home runs (second lowest HR/FB rate across all of Double-A, min. 100 innings). Some of it is his consistently high infield fly ball rates, but it seems to be more than that. Any of you who have seen him pitch more, does he just surrender a lot of soft flyball contact?

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    1 hour ago, CheeseheadInQC said:

    Rodriguez's is an interesting statistical profile. For a flyball pitcher who gives up a lot of pulled contact, he surrenders surprisingly few home runs (second lowest HR/FB rate across all of Double-A, min. 100 innings). Some of it is his consistently high infield fly ball rates, but it seems to be more than that. Any of you who have seen him pitch more, does he just surrender a lot of soft flyball contact?

    He surrendered a lot of soft contact (in Double-A) across the board by my eyes. Part of his walk schtick is he doesn't offer a lot of meat on the bone to hitters - the downside (and, i guess, plus side?) of this is he is unafraid or unused to working from behind or in full/elevated counts batter-to-batter. Like Miguel Cabrera's fearlessness in an 0-2 count, Carlos is unfazed in 2-0;3-0; or 3-2. The downside of this, going further, is the greater impact this has within each of his Starts. I can recall numerous prolonged first innings, for example where he hit the mound nibbling and missing and suddenly had the bases juiced. He quite adeptly can work out of these jams but we all know that won't be sustainable the higher he travels in the circuit. It is uncanny the number of starts, for instance, where I ventured to other games to check in on certain other players and I came back to Carlos (who may have elevated his pitch count into the upper 20's after one of those vintage inaugural innings, for example) who had once again managed to K 8-10 and was improbably entering the 6th frame. 

    Anyhow, I attribute all of the above to youth and accumulating experience. He is a very smart pitcher with very good stuff who is still evolving. Because his raw stuff and his head for the game are so good as is, today, I go back to his age. He is doing things at his age from an entirely different end of the spectrum than a Misiorowski. Given he concedes such weak contact, however, the free passes are a distinct area I personally want to see improvements. I compare that quality to Gasser's own struggles...who, oh by the way, has 2 1/2 years of age and experience on him.

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    Just a casual observation & I could be way off since I haven't seen him pitch as often as many of you have, but when I see highlights of him I see Jhoulys Chacin w/more velocity. Is that palpable?

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    Just now, Jim French Stepstool said:

    Just a casual observation & I could be way off since I haven't seen him pitch as often as many of you have, but when I see highlights of him I see Jhoulys Chacin w/more velocity. Is that palpable?

    That's definitely not a bad comp. A couple extra pitches for Rodriguez and Chacin used the changeup pretty sparingly, but I can 100% see that one.

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    I like the Cueto comp. from the article, I see CRod having a pretty high floor but lower ceiling with the current repertoire. Probably a ceiling in the Freddy Peralta realm as a high end 3/passible 2 with a floor of a solid 4/5 starter. At 21, wouldn't surprise me to see him add a couple mph and raise that profile but he is that big/tall to just clean up a small issue and get a couple ticks.

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