I love seeing Ned think outside the box. I couldn't agree more. I think the Brewers, given their lineup, need to be north of 75% for stealing bases to be a worthwhile endeavor. Ok, and all the guys I listed are north of 75%, save Hart's rate, which is skewed by his 2006 numbers. His 23/30 rate from 2007 is right in line with what he did in the minors. Braun is obviously right at 75% for MLB, but I'm clearly talking about more than just MLB. Hart & Weeks will both be comfortably over 75%, Cameron has run with a success rate well over 75% in his MLB career (364 total attempts). Braun is our only question mark, and even his college & minor-league success tells us 75+% success is right in line with how he's stolen bases. so lets keep the pitcher 9th and not try to turn this into a circus. A circus? I mean no offense by this, but you seem to be the only one investing this much weight into the discussion. If it's mathematically worth trying, why worry about whether or not it's worth the effort? What I can tell from the studies you cited, it seems the 8th/9th debate is - at worst - an even split... with a very realistic possibility that batting the P 8th is an improvement (albeit small). So if it gets you even the slightest advantage to bat the P 8th, why not entertain an idea that can improve your chances to win? To argue that it's 'too much' for fans that one lineup slot has been changed just isn't a good enough reason imho, if it can help you better compete. If you find it doesn't help, and in fact hurts, no harm in switching back. I'd rather the manager give it a shot, on the outside/small chance it can aid winning.