Agreed on all fronts, Geno... 'cept this, sort of: But for the longer term future of this season, for the greater good if you will, if tonight's latest ass-kicking forced Obermueller either to the pen, to the Indianapolis Indians or to his life's work riding shotgun on a garbage truck, then yes, I'm GLAD it happened. I'm not defending Wes' play, but I think we need to lay the blame where it belongs and that's not on Wes... he's pitching just like he has all year - not *awful*, like Rusch circa 2003, but *very bad*. He's trying, he seems like a nice guy, and he has shown the desire and ability to make changes (like adding the curveball to his arsenal). But he's just not very good right now. At the same time, he needs regular starts to improve. The perfect place to get that regular work? Indianapolis. And in defense of Wes, he has a degree in Commercial Recreation from the University of Iowa, a good school. I don't know exactly what that means exactly, but he should be proud that he got his degree. He's obviously a reasonable intelligent guy, and so I'm hesitant to get too personal with the insults. Again... not taking issue with what you said, just issuing a general "hang with 'em" to a guy that is, AFAIK, doing his best. He's just not very good, and we shouldn't be surprised when he performs poorly when given a start against a good team. He's got some raw skills, and I think he could eventually become a better pitcher, but for right now the Brewerfan Nation's anger should be directed at Yost and the rest of the management team for sticking with a guy who is obviously going to be a poor performer in the short term. Matt Wise was a good pitcher before TJS and has been a good pitcher for the Indians and Brewers this year. If Ben Hendrickson's not the guy, then Matty Wise is. Get err done, Team Canada. ~Bill