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  1. Mark A strikes me as a rather smart guy. I'm sure Melvin explained to him each year what options they had, and the consequences. Plus, those years were closer calls in what to do compared to now. Mark A. knew he was taking a chance trying to win every year. That meant giving up prospects, not trading guys at their peak, etc. During those years I think Melvin could have jumped up and down on the conference table, and it wouldn't have mattered. Mark A was anxious to win, and Melvin executed that game plan. (And no, that doesn't take Melvin off the hook entirely. Zero WS appearances means he didn't execute the "win now" strategy quite good enough.)
  2. I believe we have two more years (through 2018) of control on Carter through arbitration. True, but my comment was made assuming Lucroy and Carter will be traded later this year.
  3. That's what Melvin did, no doubt, but it was by design- not poor roster management. Mark A. wanted to try to win every year, result is what we have now. Also, now that I think about it Greinke was probably a flip guy. But another example of how that wasn't the primary goal. They knew they couldn't sign him long-term. Ideally, he would have been part of a playoff run both years. However, since that didn't happen his 2nd year, they flipped him.
  4. Duh. For some reason I had thought there was already a previous demotion but that was to get Goforth up. Yea, I missed that too! Forgot about clearing a spot for Guerra.
  5. Magnifico comes up, then Chapman to AAA?
  6. I think that's entirely unfair. Melvin didn't make those decisions in a vacuum. Mark A. wanted to win it all those years, and GM's job is to do what the Owner/s want. Also, Monday morning QB is great, but if they won the WS one of those years I'm guessing everyone would have been more than fine with it. The first go around, they had a legitimate shot for the first time in over a couple decades. Of course you take a swing at it. Second time around, they actually (arguably) had an even better chance. In fact, I will always believe if Marcum's arm didn't wear down they would have been in the WS that season.
  7. This is the first year the Brewers have ever tried to have a "true" rebuilding season, so the answer would be none. But it has happened "by accident." Parra and Broxton last year for example. I'll also add the Brewers haven't even done much of that even this year. I don't know of any new player to the system was brought in primarily to flip later. It's just that flipping players as an option later is just a given this season.
  8. In no way would I want to take the chance he repeats this level of success next season. Carter is the very definition of sell high.
  9. Career numbers don't matter, neither do projections for 2017. Carter's value comes from the fact he's dirt cheap, and provides a power bat for a portion of the season. Long way to go from now until July/early Aug, but if he's hot at that time, that's all that matters. There will be teams that need a power bat, always are.
  10. Isn't that sort of like saying it would be warmer out today if the temperature was higher? You say "just add 4 decent starting pitchers" as though it's no big deal. If they had that, or could easily get there, then of course the rebuilding wouldn't take long, or be as painful. Problem is, of course, we're seeing how difficult it is to find ONE of those guys, much less four. Actually, you need more than four since it's pretty rare to make it through a season with just 5 SP logging 90% of the starts. I will agree though that multiple horrible seasons aren't necessary. Hopefully this year is the bottom. Next season they could start improving, or maybe be about the same as this year W/L wise. But starting in 2018, yes, I expect them to start rising. They don't need to be awful for 4 or 5 years.
  11. Lucroy is covered by Nottingham?? Good example of how a lot of people are projecting players into roles that are a country mile from being a given. Absolutely no way of knowing if they get pack a TOR starter for Lucroy. And then you throw in Lopez/Davies? So 3/5 of the competitive rotation you cite are not even close to being reality. And that's with looking past Hader being penciled in as an automatic. I have no problem with optimism. I'm very optimistic about the future, it's just that I don't believe for a minute this team will be competing for the playoffs in 2017 or 2018.
  12. Right, also the line-up is far from set in 2017/2018. You can say "just add Arcia and Phillips" but remember they'll also be subtracting Lucroy and Carter. That's almost an impossible number of dominos that would have to fall into place in the next couple years for both the rotation and line-up to be playoff-ready. That's why I think expectations are so important, and this will all be easier to take if we focus on improvement rather that the playoffs for the foreseeable future.
  13. I get the sense a lot of us are overly optimistic about when this team will be a true contender again. I keep seeing 2017 and 2018, and that's just not realistic. Is this the START of getting back on track? Absolutely. But there is simply no way the rotation will be a playoff rotation that soon. Even IF Hader arrives as a polished MLB starter, that gives you TWO guys in the rotation you can count on. Not to mention guys like Arcia and Phillips won't automatically be .800+ OPS guys that soon. It's dangerous to predict when they will be competitive again, just way too many factors at this point. But I can tell you it won't be in 2017 or 2018.
  14. Yes, but Lind was a different story. That trade was done before the season, meaning any team that wanted him was counting on a full year of production. Trade deadline signings are different, in that teams are willing to pay for a hot bat. Yes, they know Carter won't keep up those number for multiple years, all they need is a couple months.
  15. It's not the middle of the season. And even if it was, what difference does it make?
  16. That would be my choice. Thornburg ended up in the bullpen in 2014, only because they signed Garza and he became the odd man out despite closing 2013 with some strong starting performances. He's healthy now, able to use all his pitches and he'd be much more valuable as a starter. But why not Magnifico instead of Goforth? Maybe Goforth is just a temporary extra arm and who'll start in Jungmann's spot will be determined later? Hader maybe? Pena? We're still in April. Magnifico (and Chapman for that matter) will be up this season- probably sooner rather than later. This year is mostly about figuring out who is a part of the future, who can be traded for a pieces that may be part of the future, and eliminating guys who are neither. You don't find an Axford or even a Blazek without going through a whole lot of Freemans, Torres, Goforth, and the like. Put another way, think of this season as a 6 month extended spring training.
  17. It is going to hurt, burning a year of service time in a season that is already lost.
  18. Or Thornburg added back to the rotation. I doubt it, but at this point anything is possible.
  19. We're left with waiting a few more years for the pitchers in the low minors to develop. By the way, this is why I was firmly against trading away Wagner and Sneed. Sure, neither had a real high ceiling. But without a couple real projectable studs, they need quantity. They should not be trading away any pitchers in the system at this point.
  20. First, teams have different goals for the year. Whether it's bringing up a stud pitcher to generate interest, a piece to making the playoffs, whatever. In the case of Hader, my guess is they believe even if he was ready, what blow a year of service time in season that's already written off? Plus, he's really struggling to get through 5 innings in his starts. Then, each team has their own philosophy in how they promote players. Some are more aggressive, some more conservative. Brewers fall on the conservative side. When is a player ready? Well, "ready" is very subjective. Finally, every player is different. Are they emotionally ready for MLB? Are the numbers great in AA/AAA simply because they're over-powering guys, or they actually pitching?
  21. Paul, I've been feeling that way lately as well. I was optimistic the 2017 rotation could beat expectations with Nelson, Peralta, Hader, Lopez, Davies. Not a title contending rotation, but the start of one. 2016 would be the year Peralta returns to earlier success, the young guys continue to dominate in AAA, and real hope for 2017. Then Ponce and Williams are a year or two away. Well, all of that is out the window. Now I've come to realize this is probably not going to be the window. They are not going to be ready to compete in 2018, which I thought was at least possible. Instead, it looks like we'll have to wait for the next wave, mostly guys in A ball and below. Hopefully when those guys come up, the Brewers will have a few established guys like Arcia, Phillips, Hader, etc. So we could be looking at 2020 at least before this team is over .500 again.
  22. It was a valuable exercise since it will happen to the Brewers this year, even though it was never in question today.
  23. No question about that. But the key is can he be close to these numbers 3 months from now, and then hopefully have a hot streak during the trade window? Like I said earlier, teams aren't stupid they know what Chris Carter is. At the same time, teams recognize adding a power hitter who is hot, even it only lasts a month or two.
  24. There are always teams at the deadline looking for a power bat. At the same time, I think teams realize he's not going to keep up these number for multiple years. But that's ok, if he's hot in late July, into August he should get a quality prospect package even as a rent-a-bat. Power is in shorter supply these days, so his value should go up.
  25. Two things to consider. 1) Walsh is the only LH of this mish-mosh of infielders. 2) You'll be thrilled to hear Perez drew THREE walks so far this year.
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