Pappelbon has blown 1, Putz 1, Wagner 1, Hoffman 2. Even Al Reyes has only blown 1, Dempster 2, Gregg 1 etc Here's my point about closers: Papelbon -- Starting pitcher thrust into the closer role, becomes a top closer Putz -- mediocre until last year when he developed his splitter and became elite Wagner -- 347 career saves, a great closer Hoffman -- 500 career saves Al Reyes -- journeyman relief pitcher coming off TJ surgery, somehow meets your bizarre criteria of successful closers Dempster -- same (failed starter turned closer) Gregg -- middle relief outcast from anaheim, now successful closer in florida Also think Joe Nathan, Jason Isringhausen, and for that matter Derrick Turnbow 2005. Closers come out of nowhere. Being a "great" closer is all about opportunity. Fans drastically overrate the importance of having a great closer. The truth is, most good RP should be able to come in with a 3 run lead and end the game. Obviously there are some great closers in this list above, but what if Joe Nathan never got a chance to close because Minnesota committed 50 million to someone like John Franco, or some other established closer?