And the MOST frustrating part is that people on the traditionalist side can at least see and understand the use of the statistical side. Very few "stat guys" see, understand, or accept the other side. funny...because it seems to me that its thw other way around... actually, i think everyone here is getting a little defensive...theres no reason for there to even be "sides"...the factions are a bit ridiculous, as almost nothing of what's being said is mutually exclusive...