I would say alittle bit of both. They have good players. That doesnt make them a good team. They can be good, but I think a lot of us expected a bit too much. It could all change with a good homestand though. Which I am hoping for. I definatly dont think they are as bad as 75-87, also, its hard to count those games last year, the team is definatly different this year from last year. I prefer to look at it as the team was 15-11, and is now 1-7. I think its silly to look at the last 162 games if your looking at this team. I DO however, think you could look at the last 162 if your evaluating Yost. But thats for a different discussion.