There are a whole bunch of threads here talking about the players, and quite often it's about how badly the players are doing. This thread is about Ned Yost. Those that don't like him use this thread to hold him accountable (or at least make us feel like we are), and we use the other threads to point out instances when the players are responsible. As for your comment about the W-L record, it really has never had anything to do with wins and losses necessarily. Many of us have been angry with Ned after a win and satisfied with Ned after a loss. It's not about the result; it's about creating a situation that has the best probability of achieving a good result. I'm sure you could pinch hit Craig Counsell for Ryan Braun with the bases loaded and every once in a long while, Counsell will hit a grand slam. But that doesn't mean you should do it every time after just because it worked once, and it doesn't mean that the manager that decided to do that is a genius. The result would be a grand slam, but it would still be a stupid move regardless of the result. The one about Cameron doesn't necessarily bother me. Cameron is a very good CF, so I think he has a point when he says that. As for the pitching thing, his words would carry much more weight if he hadn't already said things like that about every crap pitcher that has held us to a run or less this year. It's like the boy who cried wolf...it just doesn't mean anything anymore.