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between TE and WR, the Packers simply don't have enough bodies at those positions at present - so I think those positions are the priority in rounds 1-2. Throw in Edge and I think their 1st two picks are dedicated to those spots. Going to have another OL drafted mid rounds to maintain depth, but the current roster is thin enough at other positions where OL is an afterthought for this year's draft. If the line sucks/gets decimated by cuts and injuries this season, then you pick a new franchise cornerstone tackle next year.

There's also still a ton of time between now and when that 5th year option kicking in to get Love signed to what would likely be a pretty team-friendly extension and make his 2024 cap hit really reasonable and set the organization up to add significant talent without salary cap concerns...kind of the same thing they did with Rodgers in the middle of his 1st year as a starter after the Favre saga was done and over with. Worst case scenario would be Love stinking up the joint and not deserving an extension - then they just have a $20M quarterback scuffling through a 2023-2024 rebuild phase that likely results in a new Packer front office and a new franchise qb picked in one of the next two drafts.

Not really, but I think Silverstein layed it out informally in an article yesterday pretty well without seeing final/final trade details. Basically, the Packers have enough cap space to get all of their current draft picks signed and not much else. If they want to add anyone in free agency they'd have to get pretty creative with what's left of their roster to make it happen. Realistically, they're not going to be players in free agency, and I'd rather they use 2023 as a retool year with Love to see if he warrants an initial extension, then have a much cleaner cap situation headed into 2024 after all of this season's dead money falls off the books.

I will have my popcorn ready to enjoy watching the train wreck if the Jets' management entertains benching a healthy Rodgers at any point, no matter what their record is in effort to avoid losing their 2024 1st rounder. They don't yet realize they no longer run the show - Rodgers now does. I think if they don't get off to a good start, they're all going to be looking for work elsewhere...this is what happens when you use a 2nd overall pick on a franchise qb you are giving up on after year 2.

They also play in a loaded conference and aren't even the favorites to win their own division, plus their out of division schedule includes NFC East and AFC West opponents this year. They are going to regret this move, but im not feeling sorry for them

I think part of that gap has to do with the fact the Giannis is arguably the most complete and best player in the entire league, so there will always be that gap. The Bucks are a victim of the current NBA climate in terms of building rosters - Milwaukee's not a destination for marquee players to want to come and play, so they've still got to try and build through the draft and their sustained run of success has sapped them of consistent lottery picks to bring in young impact talent.

If Rodgers takes >65% of their snaps, next year's pick the Packers get back is another 1st, plus the 2nd and moving up two slots with to #13 for this year's 1st? This is a pretty solid return I'd think even fans wanting to retroactively deal Rodgers to the 2022 Broncos wanted, and it also clears any longterm cap ramifactions of GB's books after 2023.

It's early, but it's also worth noting that it's quite possible the ~1.5 seasons of historic dominance that Burnes displayed in 2020-2021 that led to him winning a Cy Young probably aren't automatically repeatable. Expecting any pitcher to maintain an all-time level of dominance just because he displayed that over portions of 2 and 3 seasons ago is likely unrealistic. Burnes still profiles as a frontline starter, and if he stays healthy he'll undoubtedly have stretches of great starts - but he simply might not be the caliber of pitcher who's a threat to toss a perfect game every turn he has in the rotation.

People really have a hard time grasping at how teams can have vastly different draft boards and how different GMs factor in team position needs or even rule out picking guys at certain positions if it's a weak class for that spot. Just because all the drafniks' boards wind up looking eerily similar right before the draft starts doesn't mean they're right - frankly if they were more right they'd be in a front office somewhere. Particularly in a draft year that is considered relatively thin, there are going to be a lot of head scratchers throughout this draft with people wondering why "so and so" didn't get picked instead - guys are going to fly up and down boards last minute depending on how teams pick.

Suter wouldn't have been anywhere close to entering the game in the 8th inning today, so what Bush and Guerra did has no bearing on the fact the Raptor is right where he should be - cashing checks for a last place team that doesn't have anyone else better to be their mop up/low leverage innings eater...He'll get all the appearances his 33-yr old noodle arm can handle this season, since most of the relief innings Rockies pitchers log are going to be low leverage given the fact they'll be losing a helluva lot of games. I echo earlier poster sentiment to this thread - take the "Article" title off, because it's not an article...it's a thread. Looking forward to the upcoming "article" on why the Cooper Hummel trade was a franchise-altering move as well right after the next game he gets 2 hits and jumps that batting average way up over 0.100, too.

Some of this is true, while some of it isnt - in 2021 when Hiura really struggled at the MLB level he also struggled just the same in AAA and was shut down early in that season. Last year, yeah he pummeled AAA when he was down there and getting consistent ABs, after he started the first couple months of the season largely riding the MLB bench and getting sporadic ABs primarily against lefthanded pitching while the rest of the team also couldn't hit. Despite the consistent knock on Hiura due to his too high K rate at the MLB level, his offensive production was still decent despite getting yo-yo'd in and out of the lineup most of the year. Don't get me wrong - his one solid opportunity to hit everyday in the lineup was cut off because he got into an auto-k mode in early September just after he was finally putting together enough quality at bats to for CC to play him consistently. Early reports of Hiura in the OF are promising, although he just doesn't have the arm to be a plus outfield defender - his bat will determine whether he has a long MLB career or not as a DH, or if he winds up having a long professional career in the minors/overseas

It's fantastic and long overdue, IMO - particularly with having multiple wildcard teams from each league in the postseason. They had to balance the schedule out in effort to get the best teams in the playoffs regardless of their geographic locations. I don't care if the teams suck, I hated having to watch 9-10 Brewers games played at empty Pirates' or Reds' ballparks - play more games against different teams for fans to see other players more frequently!

if he spends the full year down in AAA he might hit 50. The ironic thing is the Brewers appear to have a much different and diverse offense at the start of this season than they've shown the past couple seasons, yet they're still striking out a ton and hitting for good power - team speed got a significant upgrade with the youngsters, and it does seem like they've done a better job at taking walks/getting on base. I think Hiura will still play a significant role in Milwaukee this year - seem to be enough players in Milwaukee getting injured not to call him up at some point. He's done this in AAA before while K-ing there around 30%, if he could carry that rate into MLB he'd be very valuable in the everyday lineup. Recent past indicates he's not able to do that, but his bat makes too much damage when he does make contact not to at least give him another opportunity at the MLB level later this season. He'd be a heckuva bat to throw in the 9 slot in the lineup

Could be a steal, sure, but the flip side is to know that the only way this is possible is the slew of Brewer players going on IL so earlythis season...which sucks

The same thing was said around 6 ish seasons ago to want to extend Jimmy Nelson once he took off in early 2017, and then they extended Chase Anderson and brought in stopgap free agent vets on shortterm deals like Chacin, Miley, and Gio Gonzalez...plus they had serviceable starters like Zach Davies....thank God they took the approach of avoiding a longterm extension to Big Jimmy D and then let the youngsters coming up from the minors see what they could become as MLB starters (Peralta, Woody, Burnes). Then in 2018 they had among the best (and most cost-effective) pitching staffs in the league. Nobody was clamoring for the Brewers to extend Burnes and Woody the instant they got up to MLB, either, because they weren't highly pedigreed pitching prospects who were can't miss frontline starters until seasons 2 or 3 of their MLB careers. There are other arms in the Brewers' system who arguably profile better than what those 3 were as prospects - and they'll hopefully get the same opportunity as Woody and Burnes did when they stepped into roles formerly occupied by veteran pitchers when they were ready for the Show.

Until Yelich's contract no longer takes up ~20% of the annual Brewers' payroll, I honestly don't know why people are surprised there isn't a 2nd megaextended player making $20M+ annually for the next 5+ seasons. I'll be upset if any one of the 3 get a contract extension from the Brewers, because in all honesty they're too close to free agency for the Brewers to get any sort of team-friendly discount and they won't just extend 1 or 2 more seasons than current team control through the 2024 season. Plus, the two pitchers are already injured and Adames is a good/not great player who won't be worth whatever contract he winds up signing in a couple offseasons via free agency. Paying older players huge sums of guaranteed money to cash checks as their performance declines is not how small market teams should operate in this system if they have any hope of being consistent contenders. Any Brewers' extensions happening in the next couple of seasons need to be issued to players in pre-arbitration with the intent of keeping them Brewers until they reach~30 yrs old. The Brewers already have control of Woodruff, Burnes, AND Adames until they're either over 30 or pushing right up against it - let that play out and either pay them what they're worth in arbitration or trade them if a more valuable package presents itself next offseason (or even next year's deadline)

I'd much rather focus on the Brewers continuing to improve their minor league system of drafting and developing young talent so they can remain incredibly picky at throwing market value extensions to veteran players 4+ seasons into their MLB service time. There are other ways to build sustained contending teams than trying to outbid huge market franchises for the declining years of good veteran players with market-rate contract extensions and free agency. The Brewers already have a longterm "face of the franchise" extension on their books through at least 2028, not even counting deferred actual dollar payments into 2042. Like it or not, the Brewers are MLB's smallest market - they also have seemingly "cheap" extensions already signed with Peralta and Ashby...how many more pitchers with balky shoulders is the front office supposed to extend for people to be happy they're being appropriately reckless with their limited budget?

Not if he has to undergo shoulder surgery that costs him this season and part of next year - at least in terms of landing a 5-7 year deal worth $25+ million per. Shoulder problems are much worse for pitcher longevity than a blown elbow ligament. Just ask Jimmy Nelson or Ben Sheets.

way, way too early to make that statement - thinking there's just as good a chance Ruiz has a better overall MLB career than most(but not all) of those 4. I'm glad he brought a quality starting catcher back in return as part of being traded, and am cautiously optimistic he doesn't wind up being a player the Brewers wished they held onto.

This actually makes alot of sense given what happened with Favre retiring/unretiring after just 1 season with the Jets, and leaving Woody with a front office/coaching staff in major flux right after it due to firings. If true, that proposed trade package would be solid compensation headed back to GB knowing the 2nd is in the top 45 picks and with the expectation that GB will probably have a mid to high 1st round pick in 2024 assuming Love isn't instantly a HOF starter in 2023. If the Jets are making the 2024 1st conditional on Rodgers playing more than just 1 more season, the Packers should hold firm on demanding it no matter what and wait as other teams keep kicking the tires on a trade.

What the Brewers are doing with arms like Burnes and Woodruff is exactly how a small market franchise needs to operate in the current MLB financial system with pitchers who will be on the verge of 30 (or in Woodruff's case older than 30) when they reach UFA - it's not like as soon as core pieces turn into good players that they're dumping them for more prospects to avoid paying escalating arbitration salaries - they are paying those players they know they won't be able to extend what the system dictates to control them through their prime years of production, while occasionally offering pre-arbitration extensions to riskier arms that may be looking for longterm security (i.e., Peralta and Ashby, who have already shown to have issues staying on the mound due to health, but the extension value doesn't crater the team's budget if/when they are injured and not performing). The goal of an organization like the Brewers is to have a couple young rotation arms or players ready to take over for core players as they approach free agency so they maintain flexibility with roster management and can decide to either roll with that veteran right up to him becoming a free agent or trade him an offseason or so early to maximize value. Particularly with pitching, for every 1 free agent contract or extension that pays a HOF-caliber starter market value way into his 30s that works out, there are 20x as many that turn out to be bad investments for the organization due to declining production, injuries costing large chunks of the guaranteed contract term, or oftentimes both. I don't want my team risking those odds of a lemon contract for a pitcher, no matter how great he is in his late 20s.

I never get this argument - starting pitcher who's primary value is be able to take the ball every 5th or 6th day and dominate a game starts having arm trouble and misses starts, so yay we can maybe sign him to a contract extension that is still a bad idea for a small market team and we get to watch his arm completely fall off while paying him $20M+ a year to rehab. Hoping it's of the utmost precaution and this doesn't become a longterm concern with Woody.

I'd argue there are no Marlins fans to crow about their two WS rings, and championships from half a generation ago have no bearing on fan support now and in the future - that organization has nonexistent fan support/loyalty and have only created short term support when they went on random postseason runs. Locals will show up to the parade but then 6 months later they couldn't tell you the names of 5 players on the Marlins' roster.

It's just an unfortunate play all around that started with a bad decision by Cruz to take off for home on a batted ball right towards him and the 3B - basically the one spot on the field where he shouldn't try to score from.

With the current rule in place for plays at the plate, I don't think they can just try to run through home plate without sliding.