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Not this bullpen.

There is ZERO chance in hell they could get the fans to be okay with that.. This is on DS..all on him..this team had problems awhile ago and instead of going out, being aggressive and getting someone, he just keeps thinking the players on the team will improve. This is what he gets...he has to own this. Period. I really believed Woodruff, Burnes and Peralta were going to be fine. So disappointing. I didn’t and I believe this has had the biggest impact on the team. Thinking 3/5 of the starting rotation could be with unproven talent was a horrible decision. They let Miley go along with this, and they left themselves in a position where they have no one to replace these guys besides the garbage we are seeing. Also broke up the strength of the team in the bullpen from last year. Just so disappointing all around.

It won’t be long before we’re a last place team, so at least it won’t feel so bad losing all those games.

Might as well. Too many holes to fill.

I don't know if the fan touched it. It hit off the railing I think. I don't think he touched it either, but he could have caused the OF to miss it by getting in the way of seeing it.

That fan may have cost us a run. If the OF catches it, Yelich likely scores.

If the Brewers don't bring home this leadoff triple, then it's time to become a seller. Only sort of not kidding. They need to come out strong this week, otherwise they should consider it.

But they are celebrating WINNING the World Series. Huge difference. Yes, but what have they won since? About as much as we have. I’d rather have won the World Series multiple times 40+ years ago and then not done much after that, than go to one World Series 37 years ago, lose it, and then not do much after.

Wow, 7-16 to finish off the first half? I knew it was bad, but didn’t realize it was that bad.

Need a straight on view to really see if his foot came off

But they are celebrating WINNING the World Series. Huge difference.

YEAH! Make the playoffs only twice and turn a long window into a much shorter one! MORE OF THAT!!!!! In all seriousness, how long do you think our window is? Prior to this season I thought it was a relatively long period of time, but as of now I’m leaning more towards only like 2-3 more years (basically how ever long we have Yelich’s rights). Besides him, our best offensive players are Grandal, Moustakas, and maybe Gamel and Hiura. Two of those likely could be gone after this year. Pitching-wise we have Hader and Woodruff. Outside of that everyone else is either unproven, regressing, or on the decline. I’m not trying to sound grim, but just trying to point out that I believe that our window of opportunity isn’t very large anymore.

OnTheBlack - This will be my last reply to this thread as we could go on with this for the rest of our lives, and likely without much success. You're missing the point of where I was going with a lot of this. The reason I asked all those questions wasn't to really get answer, but instead to point out all the situations where the Brewers have underperformed this season. I admit that the original post referred to not playing well coming into the ASB and some of these were things that happened prior to the season, or earlier in the season, so the scope has become larger, but everything still points back to areas where the team has been disappointing in my eyes. You brought up the Brewers vs. pitchers making MLB debuts twice in that last reply so I actually looked it up. I couldn't find resources that could get me everything without spending a lot of time assembling it, but from what I see the Brewers faced two starters making their MLB debut this year (5/28 Devin Smeltzer - MIN and 6/18 Logan Allen - SD). The Brewers went (6 IP, 0 ER, 3 H, 0 BB, 7 K) and (7 IP, 0 ER, 3 H, 2 BB, 5 K), respectively. Devin Smeltzer only had one other start after that: 6.1 IP, 5 ER (4 HR), 5 H, 3 BB, 2 K. Logan Allen has had three more starts for a total of: 11 IP, 9 ER, 17 H, 4 BB, 8 K. The Brewers struggled mightily against these two guys that haven't done very well since. You also missed the point of comparing the 30 game stretch prior to the ASB (well, at least up to July 4). The point was that the Brewers haven't been playing well during that period. They've played no better than the stretch of their worst season ever during that period. If they are going to be in a position to be contenders, they should be playing better than their worst season ever. That is all. And, yes, I'm reactionary. But stomping my feet and throwing a tantrum? Grow up, man.

I wish people would stop with the sell BS. They are NOT going to be sellers..the problem is, it looks like they aren't going to be buyers either...the crickets are chirping in Stearns's office. Not doing anything is worse than either buying or selling.

Unfortunately I think there are too many holes in this team to fix without completely gutting the farm system.

Nope, definitely not playing like garbage. Sorry, had to say it

He doesn’t hit well enough for a 1B, unless it’s on the Brewers. Our 1B duo isn’t really lighting it up this year, although it’s not nearly as awful now than it was not that long ago.

I wouldn’t consider the Jerry Hairston trade to be small. IMO he played a significant role in 2011. I was very disappointed when the Brewers didn’t sign him for 2012. They could have used his versatility in the stretch during the disappointing 2012 season.

The Brewers went 8-2 before the all star break in 2017. They went 10-4 in 2015. They were bad in 2016 and 2018. It is almost like it is just random noise. I admit that it isn’t always going into the All-Star break when they tend to have their stretch where they can barely win a game. They do often have a mid-season swoon that really hurts their chances. Last year they were able to overcome it with a miraculous run at the end of the season. I would be very surprised if this year’s team can turn it around and do as well as last year.

Wow...this is a comically absurd post. First paragraph, stop asking really stupid rhetorical questions. Why not give us some answers? As for taking a team that lost 102 games and arbitrarily picking a stretch in which they had a similar run as this current team, that may be the single dumbest "justification" I've ever seen! Just comically ridiculous. 3rd, "just because I see the Brewers for who they are," really challenges the rest of this post, but could actually be the most obnoxious. This is like someone announcing to people that "I'm just a realist." As if all the rest of the people giving THEIR measured opinions openly call themselves pessimists or optimists. You see the Brewers as YOU see them, not "for who they are." When they're struggling, the most whinny fans will latch on and complain about everything and seemingly revel in the joy they get from doing it. I guess that's normal for a team that's so far out of the playoffs going into the ASB.....right? I mean, if they're garbage, they HAVE to be like last years O's and 60 games back by now? Oh...that's right, they were still atop the division heading into the 4th of July. These questions are stupid? And asking me to solve them isn't? If I could answer them I'd be part of the MLB front office. The problem is that I don't think the Brewers management has the answer for them. Even worse, I don't know if there is an answer for them. The off-season decisions, along with unfortunate injuries, mind-boggling player regressions, and questionable approaches at the plate have this team with a lot of holes and room for improvement. The point of these questions was that the things I was asking were things that the Brewers keep doing to lose games/series. They keep finding different ways to lose. A 30 game stretch isn't that small of a sample, it's nearly 20% of the season. if this years team can't play better than the worst team in franchise history, than that's a problem, especially considering this was supposed to be the "easy" stretch of the season. Now, 14-16 by itself doesn't seem too bad, but in the games that they are losing they aren't playing good fundamental baseball. That's where the frustration comes in. You play poorly and make stupid mistakes, I'll call your play during that time garbage, no matter what your record is. How do you see the Brewers? Do you think they are more than a mediocre team? Why? What do they do consistently that makes you think that? I struggle to find reasons why someone would think so. I take no joy when watching the Brewers struggle. I am a die-hard fan of this team and had high expectations after last season. They aren't meeting my expectations. A team can still have a decent record and still play like garbage. A lot of people look at their record or standings and see that they still are in it for this season. While that is true, the team's level of play over the last few weeks has been poor, and they could be in a lot better position than where they are at. So you can be happy with where they're at, and that's great. I'm not happy with it, and I'll continue to express my frustration with them until they meet my expectations.

I doubt they'd bring him back as well. Hopefully he calls it quits then instead of playing another season or two for another team. It'd be nice to see him be a career Brewer.

For the expectations I had for this team, especially from an offensive standpoint, yes, they've been playing like garbage. How many games are our only runs via the home run? How many games are we seeing guys making their MLB debut against us and dominating us, or how many times are pitchers getting their career highs in strikeouts against us? How many games are we going to throw away due to stupid mistakes on the basebath or in the field? How many games is Counsell going to start multiple guys that are struggling even though it's the most winnable game of the series, essentially conceding that game? How many series are we going to lose to teams that we should be beating (even worse, we are barely winning one of the games)? Just because I see the Brewers for what they really are (a very mediocre team that is fortunate to have the record they do and be in the division they are), doesn't make me not a fan. In fact, I'd argue that I'm one of the bigger Brewers fans there are. I had high expectations after last season, and I wasn't happy with the decisions made over the offseason, and I'm definitely happy with how this team has been playing for most of the season. I'm actually more disappointed in this year's team than I was in the 2002 team (even when I was at loss 100 that year). Since my comments are crap it must mean that they are false. If they haven't been playing like garbage lately, how have they been playing? How has their last 4-5 weeks gone, especially compared to how we believed they'd go? Must have gone pretty well if I'm incorrect. The 2002 team, who was really garbage and lost 106 games that year, went 14-16 from June 1 through July 4. Guess how that compares to 2019? Exactly the same, and this year's schedule was "favorable". This team hasn't played better than the 2002 team, so I'd say "garbage" is a justifiable term.

As is tradition, the Brewers are complete garbage going in to the All-Star break. #SameOldBrewers.

As have the “everything is fine” posts, IMO.

Hogwash, we were in first place. I’ve been told that’s all that matters, even if the team appears hopeless.