Roscoe Chill

Steak and Shake. Wascal's at Great America...I should have known by everyone in front going burger, burger, burger, then I decided to try the chicken sandwich. Ah, food poisoning, what a memory.

The Janesville workers who will lose their jobs are going to get 90% of their pay for three years after the plant closes...which is about three weeks away. So, it's sad, yes, but three years of good pay for doing nothing (except going back to school, which is also paid for, if they're smart) doesn't sound too bad to me. It also kind of explains why the auto industry is in trouble. Anyway, while Detroit may be having more problems than other cities, the other cities (including Milwaukee) are feeling the economy too.

To be fair, Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones have said it won't be Led Zeppelin if Robert Plant is not involved.

The silver lining was watching Rob Wilson go right after Thabeet (and draw the foul). With Freshmen, I like to see little signs of encouragement...and he showed something tonight. Totally agree...he actually did it twice, drawing fouls both times. It looks like Wilson might be exactly the type of player the Badgers need, someone that can get to the hole. Either way, to have Hughes, Bohannon, Taylor, and Wilson in the backcourt for the next two years is a good thing, especially later on this year, and next year.

I don't know anything about Wakamatsu. But I do think it's funny that none of the six candidates or so was named Ned Yost. I don't know if that means Yost wasn't interested, but I find it at least a little telling.

I agree Briggs. Recent history with this club has suggested that this site collectively doesn't project arrivals to the big leagues very well. It's almost the opposite of what normally occurs. Braun, Gallardo, even going back to Prince, Hardy, and others were about a year early as far as the majority of people around here had suggested. You're talking about needing a left handed bat, and the lack of realistic options out there, add in the 3B question and voila...Mat Gamel.

Kinsler also missed 25% of the season.

That was Jeremy Stephens. There were a bunch of good fights last night. Gonzaga was impressive. Kenny Florian was impressive. Dustin Hazelett was impressive. Matt Brown and Ryan Thomas put on a pretty good show. Great night all around. I love MMA. I really can't wait for one night that has: Forrest Griffin vs. Rashad Evans; Frank Mir vs. Antonio Nogueira; and Rampage vs. Jackson vs. Wanderlei Silva. That's going to be a great event too.

Don't discount Gabriel Gonzaga RoCo. Or Fabricio Werdum, who beat Gonzaga twice...or Antonio Nogueira, or Frank Mir, who beat Lesnar already. I just think when you're 220 pounds like Couture, that's a tall order to take on Lesnar, as it showed last night. But when you're 250 plus, with experience, Lesnar is not as lethal. Dangerous, but not lethal. Just look at the Lesnar/Mir fight, Lesnar was winning, but Mir beat him because of superior skills AS A WHOLE in MMA.

I said I'd pick Couture, but I'm far from confident in that pick. I will say though, that with all the crap I've heard Lesnar (and Dana White) talk about Fedor Emilianenko, it's a shame he'll never join the UFC, because he'd destroy Lesnar...that I am confident in.

Peavey: Yes, maybe Sheets doesn't want to come back. I guess I could say wait and see what Sheets actually gets on the open market, and that will make my point when it happens as well. My point is that Sheets is overrated on this website, and only because the injuries and time missed aren't taken as serious as they should be...or excuses are made for him, the old one injury that spanned over two seasons, or none of the injuries were his pitching arm variety of excuses. It doesn't matter why he wasn't available at the end of the season the last two years, the only two years they had a shot in the playoffs in the last 15. TLB: If he isn't different than other pitchers out there, then why are you suggesting an "ideal" scenario of a two year incentive laden contract in another thread? That doesn't sound like a normal pitcher as far as health goes, especially one who is a free agent, and one that is supposedly one of the best pitchers in baseball. I feel like no one is understanding what the hell I'm trying to say: Ben Sheets is esssentially damaged goods, past the age of 30, and the Brewers DON'T look at him as a must sign player. The fact that they are waiting for the Sabathia situation to inevitably be settled, resulting in him NOT being a Brewer before they'll even turn their attention to Sheets speaks volumes. That's fine, for whatever reason, he's not a priority. My point is the reason he's not a priority is pretty clear, not at all surprising, but some people around here talk out of both sides of their mouths (He's the best free agent available next to Sabathia/let's offer him a two year non guaranteed deal!) Like I said, you can't really have it both ways, either he's not even close to as valuable on the open market as some think (EVERYTHING taken in to consideration) or he's going to get beaucoup coin.

That's fine, but again Sabathia will not be coming back to the Brewers next year. Management gave it a shot, definitely not a half-assed shot, but definitely not a realistic shot either. I don't think that the Brewers think Sheets stinks. But if he were as valuable as some here make him out to be, the Brewers wouldn't be wasting any time chasing CC, they'd be locking up the next best thing that's been with the organization for a decade or so.

Randy Couture > Heath Herring. I think the UFC wants Lesnar to win. I think they really wanted Couture to come back to specifically fight Lesnar, and is probably getting a huge payday from it. Sooner or later Couture is going to retire. My head tells me that A) There is no way Lesnar deserves this fight at this point. B) Couture is such a better fighter than Lesnar it's not even close. C) Couture IS 45 years old. D) Lesnar outweighs him by 50 pounds or so. So...this will definitely be an interesting fight. Like I said, Lesnar in no way deserves this fight right now, so I'll pick Couture. What happens if Lesnar wins? Does he fight the winner of Mir/Nogueira? Say Mir wins that one, then Mir/Lesnar II has Lesnar as the champ? That just seems backwards to me.

I agree with most of what you're saying lukevan. I guess my point is that around here, people want to argue that Ben Sheets doesn't have an injury history to worry about, and people compare to him to every pitcher saying: 'See, he's normal as far as injuries go.' But he's not. And Doug Melvin must feel the same way, otherwise wouldn't he go after a guy that has a lot more ties to Milwaukee then a guy who was here for three months and liked it, and is going to get more money than Johan Santana did a year ago...probably by a lot? Why the fallback option? Why is he plan B? Why the wait and see, door is still not closed necessarily attitude? Meanwhile, they're offering $100 million to an unattainable free agent. There are major concerns with his health, and the Brewers obviously (thankfully) agree, and he's a guy that might be back if the price is right type of thing...that doesn't sound like one of the top players available on the open market to me. Could he end up being a great signing for some team, including the Brewers? Sure. But he's got many, many question marks, and that all has to do with his availability the past few years. You can't really have it both ways, either he's a health risk (injury prone, unlucky, whatever), or he's not and he should break the bank Zito/Santana/Sabathia style. Which is it?

That's kind of the point RyDogg. He may go for much less than 5 years, $75 million. Why? Because of his health. I'm saying Sheets' health is a MAJOR issue with his status. I'm asking rhetorically why haven't they decided to go after a life-long Brewer who is one of the best pitchers in baseball (the obligatory when healthy) for a really nice contract? Instead they are making a valiant effort (but one that is inevitably going to come up short) for a guy that was in Milwaukee three months. I already know the answer, I just don't understand why so many people seem to just gloss over his unavailabiltiy.

If you really think that Sabathia to Milwaukee for ~ $100 Million is realistic, I don't know what to say. Again, that's not a knock on the Brewers, but just because he liked his short stay in Milwaukee, that doesn't mean he's going to leave $50 Million on the table. Let's be serious. So, yeah I'll say it again, if Ben Sheets is as good/dependable/valuable as so many on this site think he is, I guess I don't understand why the Brewers are just leaving the door open for his return rather than offering him up a really nice 5 year contract offer for $15 Million Plus per season, because the Sabathia offer is a valiant effort, but just as much as a PR move as an offer that a smart GM like Melvin actually believes will be enough. And Sabathia's arm was abused last season & he suffered in the postseason. I don't get where the disconnect comes from, aside from fan emotions & inability to be objective. I guess I don't understand why you quoted my comment on Sheets and then said this. What does this have anything to do with Ben Sheets' situation as a free agent right now?

But I raise the question again, why are they chasing the unrealistic option in Sabathia rather than just going after Sheets then? The answer to me is simple.

I agree, he might be unlucky, but at 30 going on 31 next year, is it really to be expected that his luck will change?

With all due respect, if the brass really thinks like a lot of you here do on Sheets and his dependability, they wouldn't be "waiting until CC makes a decision." Because sad to say, CC isn't coming back, and the Brewers in all honesty already know this. They made an offer, but it's not going to end up being a legitimate offer. That's not a knock on the Brewers, but if Sheets was all that (again with dependability factored in) the priority wouldn't be chasing a pipe dream in Sabathia, it would be Ben Sheets. They understand he breaks down, and that's a good thing. EDIT: And quite frankly, I don't get the impression Sheets would be too keen on being the 'fallback option.'

If Sheets is so great (dependability factored in) then why aren't we hearing about this huge offer to a guy that has been around for 8 years? Why are we only hearing that the Brewers "haven't shut the door to his return?" I'm not saying "Boo" to Ben Sheets, I'm saying a spade is a spade, and Ben Sheets can't be counted on. Is he really good WHEN HEALTHY? Yes. But a team like the Brewers can't depend on a guy like Ben Sheets in the form of $50 Million plus. Again, we keep having these discussions (arguments) about Sheets and his injuries, and there are so many people who gloss over the health of Sheets every time, except we were having the same discussions (arguments) two or three injuries ago. Was he able to go in the 2008 post season? No. Would he have been able to go in the 2007 post season? No.

I definitely don't think that Torres wouldn't have helped the team in the bullpen next year. BUT...I'm really glad that there won't be any possibility that the team would continue using him as the closer. He filled in nicely when called upon last year, but in the end, he wasn't a very good closer. So, $3.75 Million (?) to get another reliever to fill the same role that Torres should have in '09 anyway isn't the end of the world.

Garbage? Really? Sheets wasn't available for the team's first post season berth in 26 years, which didn't surprise anyone, because he wouldn't have been available if that first post season berth in 25 years occurred in 2007 (which was almost the case) either. All games COUNT the same, but when you're in a pennant race in September I don't think it's a stretch to say that those games are more important than the ones in April. It's definitely not garbage. Does it mean Sheets isn't "clutch?" No. It means Sheets can't stay healthy. I think if you continue to argue that he can stay healthy, the facts are laid out against you.

At this point, prices at or near $4 are just not sustainable in the world economy - it's not just us feeling a crunch right now. Gas is way more expensive than $4 a gallon in other countries, and has been well before the last six months. So, your theory on gas prices rising all over may be true, but in the Netherlands it's closer to $10 than it is $4.

Gullikson: http://sports.espn.go.com...yerId=27180&year=2008

I don't know why Kevin Gullikson was brought in to this, but you guys do know he played only a couple minutes after his latest run in right?