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  1. Never Outhustled
    All of Cains periferils are the same as the last 2 years, meaning his ERA will go back up to high 3s, like the last few years. He is more valuable than Hart though.
  2. Never Outhustled
    Dillard doesn't throw as hard as you describe. He tops out at 94 with his 4 seamer as a reliever. His sinker is high 80s as a starter. Thats why his average against isn't that strong. He's just too hittable because of his lack of offspeed stuff.. I still like him as a reliever though.
  3. Never Outhustled
    So pitchers can't get batters out with the same style if they're different ages? Thats just silly. The baseball doesn't know the age of the guy throwing it. Well, except ERA, average against, K/9, HR allowed. Those are rather important categories. They've pitched similarly, ones is just unbelievably advanced for his age, the other has taken longer to harness his stuff. What are you really trying to say here, that these 2 guys don't have similar styles? They don't get hitters out in a similar fashion? They're not both big, hardthrowing pitchers with power sinkers that pitch to contact? Really, whats your point?
  4. Never Outhustled
    Age might matter if we were considering their prospectum, but we're not. Ryan Howard didn't get to the Bigs at the same age as Prince Fielder, does that mean he's no good? We're instead comparing their pitching style. Some think you can only be a good prospect if you K alot, and Porcello blows holes in that theory. Butler has a very similar pitching style to Porcello. Why are you using Butlers stats from last year? Butlers GB/FB ratio is the same this year as Porcello's last year. I fully acknowledge Butler has a higher walk rate, but Butler's walk totals have been trending in the right direction as the season has progressed. Again, I'm not saying Butler is Porcello, I'm saying pitchers with power sinkers and low K rates like them, and guys like Fausto Carmona and Mike Pelfrey, can be successful.
  5. Never Outhustled
    It doesn't make sense for the Giants to trade one of there established starting pitchers for Hart if there looking to get better now, but it would make sense for them to package one of their AA stud pitchers (Alderson or Bumgarner). The Brewers could then use these prospects to package for a stud pitcher like Webb or Halladay.
  6. Never Outhustled
    Howard is a big strikeout guy, but he also walks a ton. He had a 467 OBA in AAA as a 25 year old before being called up for good. I'd love to see Katin become a more patient hitter, but some hitters just don't have the batspeed to wait back and still pull balls. I don't know if thats the case with Katin, I haven't seen him play since college.
  7. Never Outhustled
    Aren't you the one that says theres more to prospects than just numbers when refering to Escobar? Why would you compare a guy with power stuff to the 2nd slowest RHSP in baseball? It would be better to compare to big pitchers with power sinkers and low K totals like Dereck Lowe, Fausto Carmona, Mike Pelfrey, or Armando Galarraga. To me, if Butler doesn't make it as a starter he could be a Mike Timlin, Todd Coffey type reliever that relies on a power sinker for groundouts, but reports of an effective change-up in Butlers AAA debut might help avoid that scenario.
  8. Never Outhustled
    An obvious trade of equal value players would be Alcides Escobar for Clay Bucholz. Top prospect for top prospect. What I don't understand is, if Bucholz looks so good in AAA, why doesn't Boston use him to shore up their struggling rotation?
  9. Never Outhustled
    I don't think I agree with that, as the Brewers just opened the season with veteran minor leaguers Mark Difilice and Brad Nelson on the roster, and Casey McGehee is just 9 months younger than Heether. Heether homered again yesterday, and is carrying a 950 OPS.
  10. Never Outhustled
    Your the second person to say this, and it confuses me because they project well, here are his FSL totals: BB per 9 - 4.1 - tollerable Average against - 235 - good Groundout/flyout -1.67 - very good HR allowed - 0 - absolutly awesome That just leaves K/9, a stat that seems to get ignored when when people have ripped Mark Rogers or Jeremy Jeffres in the past, but suddenly becomes overrated when it comes to Butler. Butler is not a strikeout pitcher, but he's not a softtossing sinker baller either. He has a true power sinker. Butler's K/9 is just 5.6, but lets compare that to the top prospect in the FSL last year, Rick Porcello. His K/9 last year was just 5.2, and he's now having success in the Majors, and still not striking people out. Just like Butler, Porcello is 6'5", and just like Butler he has 92-95 MPH heat he throws on a downward plane. If Porcello can have big success with that kind of stuff, why is it so unimaginable that Butler could have a fraction of that success with a hint of that stuff? The Brewers organization likes to bring in power arms, simplify their delivery, and see if it harnesses their command. It worked with Turnbow until he lost his head, its working with McClung, and Butler looks like another example. When did Narron not get a deserved promotion? He only repeated levels after he posted ERAs over 4. That seems right to me. Also, Narron is nothing like Butler in the fact that Narron only throws 85.
  11. Never Outhustled
    Josh Butler gives up a 2 R HR in the 5th, snapping a 19 inning scoreless streak. The HR was the 1st he's allowed all year. He still ends up with a quality start in his AAA debut, with 6 IP, 3 hits, no BB, and 4 K. Its awesome when a guy with power stuff finally harnesses it command wise so he can just let his talent show. I'm sure this is what the Brewers had pictured when they were hoping to select him in round 2 of the 2006 draft, before Tampa rudely selected him in front of us.
  12. Never Outhustled
    He sounds like a great kid, its baseball 24/7 for him. However, I don't like using top pickson catcher projects, do you think he could play 3B? Its 1 of the more frequent positions he plays in HS.
  13. Never Outhustled
    The way he's pitching they should just leave him in Nashville. Edit: Butler has thrown 4 shutout innings so far, just 2 singles, no walks, 2 Ks. Cool stuff.
  14. Never Outhustled
    He has similarities to Bush, there both were catchers 1st, and both have tailing fastballs and good change-ups, (though Stocks is potentially better). However Stock has 3-4 MPH more velocity on both his 2 seamer and 4 seamer, and there breaking balls are much different. Bush has an ultra slow 67-69 MPH big breaking ball. He controls it well now, but throwing for strikes was an issue for him earlier in his career, and it made him inconsistent when he couldn't throw it for 1st pitch strikes. Stock's beaking ball is tighter and more of a swing and miss pitch in the low 80s. I can see the Brewers have a serious interest , as they have no problem with shorter pitchers and prefer fresh arms, however his signability could cloud things. I like Stock, and hope the Brewers can get good news about his desire to pitch and sign. I don't think he'll be available to the Brewers in round 2 if he's willing to sign.
  15. Never Outhustled
    I seen him pitch live once. He's a huge dude. His fastball topped out at 85, but his change-up was very effective. That pitch is everything to him.
  16. Never Outhustled
    Welcome aboard 804Sox. Hardy isn't a FA to be, he is under control for 2010, making him very valuable. He was worth $22 million last year per Fangraphs. The Sox would jump at Hardy for Bucholz. Theres no guarantee Bucholz will ever be a $22 million player.
  17. Never Outhustled
    While he was one last year, and he was one in all the years of his career before he started using that rediculous batting stance. Also, its unfair to hold a player to the offensive stats he puts up as a part time player. If you isolate Counsel's stats the last few years to the times when he was getting regular stats, he a much better hitter. I agree Counsel needs a platoon partner, and Escobar is hot in AAA, but so is Adam Heether. He would be the wiser call-up. However, eventually it will be Hall platooning with Counsel.
  18. Never Outhustled
    Not only did Jones outpitch Meche in each of their 1st 3 pro seasons, Jones did it while pitching at higher levels. Jones got hurt at the end of his 3rd season, and underwent shoulder surgery the following year. Meche got hurt at the end of his 4th pro season, and underwent shoulder surgery the following year. they were both similarly ranked prospects according to BA. I'm not saying Jones and Meche are identical, but Meche is a pretty good example of a quality pitching prospect who had major shoulder injury and made it back. Hopefully Jones can continue on the same path.
  19. Never Outhustled
    After an awful month of April, posting an ERA of 8.81 with 17 BB and 16 Ks in 14 1/3 innings, Frederickson is starting to show some progress. In May he has an ERA of 4.05, with 13 walks and 23 Ks in 20 innings. He has very impressive stuff, hopefully he can start to dominate soon.
  20. Never Outhustled
    Money did say on a pre-game interview that Mat's issue early this season had to do with his pre-pitch stance, which lead to a number of fielding errors. I donj't think it was addressed last year at all, you should re-check your timeline, then re-read my post. The issue Macha and Randolph are addressing is after he fields the ball he comes up too upright when setting to throw. This has nothing to do with his pre-pitch stance. You need to fact checker. Gamel has started 5 of the last 6, there was only 2 games he didn't appear in.
  21. Never Outhustled
    The numbers don't translate that way. MLB pitchers are less likely to walk Gillespie than minor league pitchers. Try using MLEs. That will give you OBA.
  22. Never Outhustled
    Sorry, no disrespect to Mr. McGehee.
  23. Never Outhustled
    MaGehee is a very good defender, but no better than Heether. MaGehee doesn't even play SS like Heether can. Is that why he has a 289 slugging %? MaGehee has never had a good season at the plate, and has never hit as well Heether. I agree that MaGehee plays hard, but that doesn't make him any different than Heether. Heether is also a factor on the bases, whereas MaGehee is slow.
  24. Never Outhustled
    The guy I think Jones compares best to is Gil Meche. Meche, like Jones, is a former 1st round draft pick with similar size, good athletism, low to mid 90s fastball, and a pretty good curve. Meche also had major injury issues as a youngster. Meche has become a very valuable, and durable pitcher. Meche missed part of 2000, all of 2001. He was brought back slowly in 2002, pitching just 65 innings, all in AA. In 2003, he made 32 starts in the majors, and pitched well. Jones is already 26, they're not going to hold him back if he's pitching well. As long as he's getting people out, he'll be on the mound. As for AA or AAA, it doesn't matter to me, as lots of players in other organizations go straight from AA to the majors.
  25. Never Outhustled
    Nashville pitcher Sam Narron, a thinking mans pitcher and member of the Narron baseball family, commented last week that Salome has really improved defensively since the 2 played together early last season.
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