Nope, only low K guys who aren't extreme groundballers which fits Garland and Suppan. I acknowledged that Garland is younger thus better but we are talking about the next 3 years of Garland here. Garland age 26-29. 129 GS, 820.1 IP, 1.40 WHIP, 409 K, 218 BB, 91 HR, 4.41 ERA Suppan age 26-29. 129 GS, 818.1 IP, 1.37 WHIP, 449 K, 258 BB, 106 HR, 4.52 ERA That is about as comparable of pitcher as you are going to find in baseball over a 3 year stretch. I don't think Garland is an upgrade over Washburn or Davis and he is younger and probably wants a longer contract. His career 4.42 ERA probably sums up his talent level pretty well. He'd be an upgrade over Suppan and probably Parra. I'd put him equal to a healthy Dave Bush which we don't know if he is healthy or not. He certainly would be a fine depth move. The funny thing is people are complaining about these 3 when they are as good as any other pitcher on the market at this point. I would much rather sign any of these 3 than overpay Piniero. It is probably a wash between signing one of these and going with a Sheets/Bedard/Smoltz heavy risk guy. Marquis wasn't likely an upgrade over those 3 either. Lackey, Wolf and Harden were the 3 pitchers a cut above the rest and we got 1 of the 3.