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A lot of folks are openly critical about many aspects of the Brewers org. Have you ever visited a game thread? There's more negative than positive in those threads. The reason you are being fought against by the entire message board right now is because you STILL have yet to present a single fact or solution to anything you are saying. You are crossing your arms and saying "I don't like it and you can't make me" and all anyone has asked you repeatedly is to provide any kind of proof that the Brewers FO doesn't have the Brewers best interest in mind. One thing. Provide one thing.
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Frelick
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Ok! We are getting closer. You are not upset at lack of spending, you are not upset at their lack of trades in volume... you are upset that the Brewers have not traded from organizational depth to obtain future MVPs (Contreras withstanding obviously, yes?) and that is the reason why they are gaslighting us by telling us they are trying to compete for championships. This is actually a pretty good idea. Trade from the minors to get future MVPs on our team. Can you find any players from our current minor league depth you would trade and which soon to be MVPs you would target?
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Absolutely. That's why I'm excited to hear your thoughts. I guess I also needed to put some of that response in blue. You have said multiple times in other threads that you know Milwaukee can't spend the money of bigger markets, so we know that isn't your issue. You've mentioned trading from organizational depth to bolster the roster and when it was mentioned the Brewers do it repeatedly your response was that they are trading them at the wrong time with disadvantageous value and you have said you are tired of this happening year after year. So that means we are expecting it to happen again this year? I would love to hear which pieces of our organization you would trade today and to whom and for what if you have any ideas? Being a 20/20 vision fan of the past is not a great trait but if you can have the vision for the future you can be an asset to the team! What are your thoughts?
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You're timing is just so strange man.. We are not even 2 months removed from Matt Arnold being named MLBs Executive of the year. They looked around all of baseball and pointed at Milwaukee and said "no one is doing it better than that guy" ... How lucky are we as a fan base that we have the Executive of the year AND one of our fans on the message boards can do the job better... Golden age of Brewers baseball.
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We traded Wiemer+ for Montas. We did exactly what you are saying we didn't do. What are you talking about? Did you think Crochet was available for that price?
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I am realizing more and more as I read these threads that there are a lot of Brewers fans who believe if the Brewers profit $10mil dollars in a season that Mark Attanasio has an extra $10mil in his pocket.
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Your stance of "we are being gaslit by the organization" can only be directed at salary, because you are otherwise telling us you have direct knowledge of the conversations we are and are not having with other teams regarding trades. Do you work for the Brewers front office? Because if not "basically refuse to make a significant move by using (prospects)" is misguided with no basis of proof.
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My guy you are a fan of the wrong team. I agree with you our chances of winning the world series are slim... but how many teams have a "better than slim" chance? 6? 8? We are in the majority and we are one of the best of those remaining. If you want to cheer for a team that has a lot of money, why don't you do that? Everything you are posting right now is all just getting back to the fact you wish we could spend or overpay with assets to "make an attempt". I'm not mad at you man, but the Cubs should be your team here in the Midwest. They have the luxury of overpaying for their on field product. We don't.
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So you went into last season having lost Woodruff and Burnes + all of the unknowns with our roster + having a new manager + making "no effort" to acquire anyone to move the needle ... and you still had such high expectations that our team UNDERPERFORMED to your liking and left you disappointed?
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With all due respect I think this is kind of a short sighted view on how to field a competitive team from our position. Because of multiple factors, we can't afford to give the big FA the $$ it would take to get them here so we have to operate differently. We are a ground up organization as opposed to a top down one. Do we not consider large investments into our foreign academy/structure a 'meaningful' move? The upgrades to the spring training facility? The continual promotions in the FO to avoid our guys getting poached? So when the Brewers have a good year and are in the green and fans say "invest in the team!!" ... I am happy the team is looking at that comment from a much bigger picture than just "go sign a name"; there could be a really good argument that the few times we have signed a guy "to make a meaningful move" in the last few decades at an attempt to be competitive... it has not produced results any better than when we have spent our capital elsewhere to make the organization as a whole better.
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Two things about that.. 1) If only we had spent the money to go get the best closer in baseball last year so we could have closed out the Mets we could have made a run at it, right? 2) What is your number to be satisfied? If a big payroll is what you need to feel like we are trying ... is that number $130? $150? Top 10 in the league? Do you think an extra $20mil/yr will get us over the hump? We gave Hoskins $17 last year and he arguably made us worse. To be safe we probably need to sign 3 or 4 of these $15-20mill guys to make sure one of them plays up the money, no?
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I guess I just don't know what we are wanting them to do? We have the 6th most wins in MLB over the last 5 years ... do fans want them to add $80million/yr to payroll? Or do they think an extra $7mil for a 1WAR 3B is going to win us a world series?
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Do we think we spend less of the working budget allotment each year compared to other teams re: player pay? Or are we just expecting Mark to dip into his pockets to make a personal contribution on top of that budget for that extra few % chance ... and if he does that and the Brewers over perform does he get the extra money he spent returned in full or does the extra generated revenue get split amongst the other owners, etc like normal profit/loss? Everyone that loses their minds over "Mark is cheap! He can spend more!" .. I would love to hear how much money they think it costs to run the Brewers each year. We see payroll and compare it to others then get upset. Genuine questions.
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The statue of Uecker outside the stadium is awesome. But the statue of him in the Uecker seats inside the stadium is now my favorite statue of all time and truly I could see myself getting emotional when I see it next and take it in. It used to be just a funny tip of the cap to our beloved announcer. Now it is just the greatest Brewer of all time watching his favorite team from his favorite spot, forever.
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If someone in Milwaukee doesn't have some Usinger's sausage outside of his statue in the next 60 minutes we will have failed as a fan base.
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It's crazy how close you can feel to someone you have never met. Most summers I spent more time with Uecker than I did my own father. RIP to the best Brewer of all time. What an impact you had on my life my friend.
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Sophia Minnaert --WI Sportscaster of the Year
liveforoctober replied to RobertCrawley's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
We are spoiled with her. She could take the same path as Trenni and go to whatever network she would want at this point if she wanted a higher profile job but chooses (I assume) to stay home and hang with us. We are lucky to have her! -
Oh, ok. I must have misunderstood what I said. Thank you!
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You know, it is such low-hanging fruit to make the joke that all of the former Brewers are going to funnel their way down to Chicago to play for Counsell again but this was just about the least surprising free agent signing of this offseason. Fully expecting Wade Miley to sign a deal with the Cubs as well here in the next month or so.
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I know this is devoid of lots of info, but in a vacuum just showing age and WAR over the last 2yrs it is crazy to see Severino, Houser, and Montas all next to each other with the same age and same WAR and 2 of those guys just got paid a boatload of money while Houser had to take a MiLB deal.
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Arbitration is hard. It's still a business at the end of the day and every agent and player are watching how you operate. If you bend the knee to Player X for $150k this year and you probably had the leverage to win the case... Good luck next year getting anyone to settle at a fair number. Because of Burnes' situation I think Brewers fans will always have a permanent fear of how these things can go wrong. All situations are different. My opinion is sometimes you need to protect your team/fans and "pay up"... and sometimes you need to protect your business and "pay down". Tough game of chess that you hope ends without any broken or missing pieces.
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Brewers acquire Grant Anderson
liveforoctober replied to markedman5's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Good numbers at Round Rock last year FWIW -
Which would further this monetary gap in favor of AZ..
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Assuming any of Baltimore, NY, or Boston is the AL East team referenced here ... the contract he got with AZ is better annually once state taxes are considered. (I know guys get taxed in each state they play in, but for simplicity sake..) Add in the opt out after '26 where he can possibly get a bump if he pitches well AND this being home ... this actually seems like a no brainer to go to AZ.
