The numbers really don't support that. True, Marcum pitched very well at times but late collapse aside, the fact is the team was under .500 (16-17) in his starts. He was the only starter with whom that was true. I'll grant that his run support was somewhat below average so you can make a solid case that getting 16 wins with that run support was doing well. But I don't think you can assume that had they signed a lower level FA (or hung on to Capuano) for about what they paid Marcum that it's reasonable to have expected the team would have won a third (11 of 33) of those starts, which still would have been enough to win the division. I honestly think if the Greinke deal had happened first, that Melvin would have passed on dealing Lawrie for Marcum. He had no way of knowing he'd get a shot at Greinke, and therefore was willing to pay a high price for Marcum. So its Shaun Marcums fault when the bullpen blows his leads or his offense doesn't provide him any runs? I can count 9 games that could have gone the other way with better relief pitching and a clutch hit or two. April 23, 2011 vs AstrosMarcum leaves with the lead after 6Kinztler and Green give up 5 ER in 1 2/3 innings May 5, 2011 vs BravesMarcum leaves after 7 with a tieKameron Blow gives up a HR June 1, 2011 vs RedsMarcum leaves with the lead after 7Kameron Blow gives up a HR and the lead June 7, 2011 vs MetsMarcum leaves after 6 with the leadMarco Estrada gives up 2 runs and the Brewers lose July 4, 2011 vs DiamondbacksMarcum leaves with the lead after 6Hawkins, Loe and Axford then give up 4 runs in 2 2/3 July 9, 2011 vs RedsMarcum leaves with the game tied after 6Estrada gives up 5 runs in 1 inning and the Brewers lose August 2, 2011 vs CardinalsMarcum leaves with the lead after 6Saito and Estrada blow and then lose the game August 24, 2011 vs PiratesBrewers get shutout in Marcums start.Hard to win when your team doesn't score any runs August 30, 2011 vs CardinalsBrewers score 1 runMarcum leaves after 7 giving up 2 unearned runs I can't believe someone still thinks wins and loses are a legitimate way to determine a pitchers worth. You can't be serious with half the drivel you post.