And that right there lies the question, how does Hader's value lowered so much vs a SP that isn't elite yet get away with a top 100 prospect easily +? Any big market team who acquires Hader will immediately extend Hader before he becomes a FA. Sorry dropped daughter off before I could finish. The guy has been atop relievers 3years now. This isnt a guy who likely fizzles out after 3 years. He will solve a concern for such team for the next 7-8years maybe longer. He on a HOF track. What barely there top 100 prospect can say they will? A lot of the Hader conversation comes down to perception of value. Like most, I want a haul for Hader but ultimately I do t think that we will get that during the off-season. Need the mid year desperation and “go for it” mentality to kick in. Having said all of that, I would not bet on Hader or any pitcher frankly as being reliable for 7-8 years. No, I have nothing to back it up but my feeling has always been that he will implode and probably sooner rather than later. Hopefully we will have already gotten out “prospect haul” for him before that happens.