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My issues with MLF started when the Packers kicked a FG down by 8 against Tampa in the NFCCG. They had Aaron Rodgers and they kicked a FG to go down by 5 and give the ball to Tom Brady for the last 2 minutes knowing the game is over if they get a first down. They didn't even do an onside kick which you might be able to justify. It's forgiveable if it didn't completely tell you what kind of coach LaFleur is and set the stage for the rest of his tenure. He's scared. He's afraid of the big mistake that will lose the game. For the umpteenth time, I do think he's a great coordinator. I think given a week to prepare and script out plays, he's quite good. I think he can coach young offensive players and develop them to succeed. When he has to adjust on the fly, or counter his opponent's adjustments, he's among the worst in the league. His scripted plays last night had the Bears hapless. In-game adjustments, challenges, timeouts, control of his emotions during games...he's terrible. That's what a HC is supposed to be good with. The coordinators do most of the other stuff. That's what he is, a coordinator. Seven years is enough. He's not breaking through in years 8 to 10. I hope the Packers recognize that too.
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It has plenty to do with it when you literally cite his age as a reason they can't possibly be friends.
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This "reactionary fan" stuff has merit when it's 3rd year. It's not when it's 7th season and he hasn't gotten out of the divisional without Aaron Rodgers. They haven't actually won 2 playoff games in a single season under him.
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I don't have a problem with the guy. Seems like a nice, good guy and takes his health seriously. In an unrealistic world I wouldn't mind him staying on as the OC, but that doesn't happen. I don't think he's fit to be a HC and believe there's a mountain of evidence. I think a big chunk of HC is game management and he sucks at it. You don't always have to take everything personally. Btw I'm 40 and have close friends in their 70s. Coincidentally almost all of them are from my time in athletics and they were my coaches. I didn't just make that up. Those two were close friends.
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Yeah this is coaching. Particularly when your ST unit is consistently awful and your best friend is the coordinator. 28/32 coaches could call about 5 games the Packers lost this season to the finish line. I really can't anymore. You like LaFleur, you think the team is bad, that's fine, I accept it.
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https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/silverstein/2026/01/11/packers-ceo-ed-policy-should-move-on-from-coach-matt-lafleur/88107203007/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p&gca-uir=true&gca-epti=z117937d00----v117937d--88--b--88--&gca-ft=188&gca-ds=sophi Bold move considering it's unlikely to happen and Silverstein has to work with LaFleur every day.
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Honestly, I can't keep having this argument, it won't go anywhere. But the Packers as late as week 14 for positioning themselves for the 1 seed and were essentially a unanimous top 5 team from any analyst. Then Parsons went down and the whole thing fell apart. So that's not LaFleur's fault, right? You would think not, except you can make a strong case that at 9-3-1 the Packers should have been more like 11-2 and he was the primary reason they weren't. And this isn't new. He then goes on to crap his pants in Chicago, does it again in the playoffs. But my desire to have him canned isn't really based on last night or even this season. It's that he has been failing in the same ways for 7 years. Misuse of timeouts, letting his friends be assistants without repercussions for awful production, turtling with a lead etc. He can go be a good OC somewhere. He's a bad coach. This is not the next Super Bowl coach. It hasn't been like a year or two. It's been 7 damn years. He's essentially Mike Sherman only LaFleur has enjoyed better QB play. When blowing multi-score leads has become the team identity I have a hard time believing there's a significant talent problem.
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This is something that makes MLF look horrendous. He was all over the place making plays and we were opting for Bo Melton the entire year. Inexcusable.
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I have a tough time going after Love in this game. The dry spell 3rd quarter wasn't great but he threw for 300+ and 4 touchdowns. He led a touchdown drive with 6 minutes to get an 11-point lead and converted a 4th down on the final drive to get us to about the 30 or whatever. Yeah, delay of game, some less than great managing of things. But he played a very good game and had a generally great year. I am a bit mystified by how many people want him gone or feel so convinced he isn't "the guy." I don't think Jordan Love even cracks the top 15 problems on this team. I just don't see any reason he can't be a championship QB.
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Yeah, I couldn't agree more. McManus missing the kick, followed by the immediate 3 and out, I was already thinking it and made several posts during the 3rd. Nothing about this was surprising. Nothing. It's gotten so bad I was relieved the Bears didn't do an onside kick. They did fool me yet again with the Golden TD. I thought for a minute they might hold on.
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It's basically one guy who has stuck his flag in the "they have no talent" position and isn't ever going to come off of that no matter how badly LaFleur performs. LaFleur is indefensible at this point. Yes the team has roster issues, but no serious person can believe this is the guy to get this team back to respectibility. He is an OC. He needs the game management left to his HC.
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For the third time...those opening sets has some really creative stuff. The 3rd quarter was Roundy's Vanilla.
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Delay of game after a timeout was bad, but Love also attempted to call a timeout, which I don't believe you can even do. That's embarrassing for an NFL QB.
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This would matter if LaFleur was a good coach. I don't think he is. I think he's a fine OC who got in over his head as a HC and has a resume made pretty by #12.
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Dude, you forget. He has Rich Bisaccia to help with game management.
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I wouldn't even have kicked the FG on 4th and 15. I would have pulled out my favorite play for 16 yards and run it. I didn't think that FG provided any value to them even had it gone in. Just didn't like the call at all. I was frankly ok with the miss as I thought it might make the Bears content to kick and tie the game. At least publicly they've said they're discussing an extension with LaFleur. I don't know why, but they are. They also said he's not being evaluated on tonight's game. I just don't know how you can ignore the trend here. This has become the identity and that is on the coach. They are comedic at this point though, they've become a league-wide joke. I think they could dig up Lombardi and put Ron Wolf in a time warp to 1994 and it wouldn't be enough.
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Those turnovers he gave them really have asterisks. He threw them both on 4th down, one was a punt and on the other he tossed up a chance because he was gonna get sacked. If you are gonna throw picks, throw those. But he didn't really hurt them. Bigger story was the 3 gifts from God that we didn't lose. The Watson fumble. The lineman fumble, and the Jacobs fumble.
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Offense went 5 drives straight of missed FG, punt, punt, punt, punt. They both kinda sucked. 28-6 second half.
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I actually disagree, I think a lot thought MLF could go this year without playoff progress. I think with the expectations and post Parsons trade they had to at least reach an NFCCG. He was bailed out by the injuries. But I didn't know this until recently, he is a Policy guy. He was on the committee that hired him. So not all that surprising he has publicly endorsed him. I want LaFleur gone. I think a lot of people thought the seat was hot this year, but I don't think he will be.
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I will defend the defense a bit. Offense did not get them off the field at all the entire 2nd half. They gassed out. They aren't good enough missing the cornerstones they are to carry a game. They needed support and the Packers went 5 straight drives with nothing.
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I actually think I may be done. I'm probably stuck reading headlines and box scores for the rest of my life, but I can't set myself up for this anymore. I thought we were getting wrecked next weekend regardless so I am not that busted up about this, but this is just a waste of energy unless you can appreciate the comedy of it all. It's incredible. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it before.
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That's generous. It's been this way for 15 years.
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Nothing to really say anymore. Someone somewhere did something to put a hex on this franchise and this is all they are capable of doing. It's beyond messed up to feel 95% sure you're going to lose with a 21-6 lead in the 4th quarter. It seems to transcend whoever is playing or coaching.
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Run off? Just call a timeout, Matt!
