Not really the same. The average players salary increases each year. The value of the franchise went up 200 million least year. I understand that the brewers have other expenses than just payroll though. However I understand, In the last few season they made some significant upgrades to the stadium, renovated their Spring training stadium, bought a single a team, etc. that money does come from somewhere. I get why fans are frustrated, as there has been no dip in attendance and I am a little bit too, but we don’t know the whole financial picture of the team. Nobody wants to win more than mark a, so I’m just hoping this all works out. The average player salary increasing means jack. The roster is comprised of different guys every year. You can't just look at the payroll and assume that if it's less the team is worse or even has less talented players. There are a bunch of variables that go into that. Hiura is making $583k. The "value" of the team also means jack as it correlates to spending. Less than jack. It's frustrating listening to people continue to say this, and even more so when they're citing completely unsubstantiated estimates from Forbes.