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Oh boy.. Guys the Brewers will make some big upgrades. Jefreess and Nelson are just 2.

If the Brewers don't win the division I should be banned. However, they will.

These players could be traded 3-5 years from now for prospects. It's a 360 all the way around as long as the money is there, which it is. I fail to see your point.

Yup. We do have the money. 25 extra million

25 million a year is easily doable for most teams in the MLB for Price. 8 years 180 million is very doable prior to FA and he'd take that deal even if you add 10-15 million, which teams could do. The days where top talent hits FA is dwindling. Pre arby deals that buy out FA are dramatically increasing, and pre FA deals are now on the rise. The Cubs plan is stupid. team will know they are desperate for pitching now that they have none and take advantage. As one poster said you can't build a SP staff in 1, 2 or 3 offseason with trades and FA. This Cubs move just insured they wont be a threat for at least 5+ years. Could have been sooner. Their fans should be pissed.

I'd do it in a heart beat. That's fine with me. The only rationale I can even fathom considering doing that deal is with the plan to trade Price in the Offseason and Replenish the top of the Farm you just destroyed. Otherwise, Milwaukee is commiting to a full on Win it all now approach for 2014/2015 and when 2016 hits? We don't win 65games for the next 4 seasons because we have zero Pitching after Peralta/Garza Gomez/ARam/Weeks are gone leaving us with Gennett,Braun,Lucroy,Davis lineup. and Segura in the 7/8 spot. Nobody's at 1b/3b/CF Man talk about dark days. I hope Price lead us at least to a World Series Appearance much less a win....All it takes is one series that goes to Game 7 before the WS that Price is used to leave him from being Game 1 Starter come WS and a Game 3/4 Starter instead and his advantage youre buying in to is gone. Nevermind how crapped the entire organization is if he goes down with injury. And then all you're left is a QO(if that even exists after 2015) All of those players are blocked for 3 years. The Brewers just had a ridiculous draft that you guys aren't even considering. The Brewers system is better than those players you mentioned. Like I said I'd do it in a heart beat. I'd give Price a 8/175 million deal, then just extend everybody. then the farm wont be needed for 5+ years.

This is exactly why the Cubs plan wont work and they wont be able to get good pitching. Price will go to a team that will re-sign him and prevent him from even going to FA. That's how much money is in MLB right now. Why would price sign when he's already as close as he is to free agency? He'd get market rate regardless, because many more teams due to the new mlb TV deal have much more money to spend. I fully expect less and less top players to hit FA due to this. Pitching is at a premium more than hitting, so this cubs move makes even less sense.

Finally! Someone understands just how good the Brewers are and what is happening in the division. Thank God... I've been thinking WS since June. I'm loving this season!

I'd take wang for president these days......

This is exactly why the Cubs plan wont work and they wont be able to get good pitching. Price will go to a team that will re-sign him and prevent him from even going to FA. That's how much money is in MLB right now.

I'm not worried at all. You are correct DM will be thinking WS at the trade deadline. Look for huge upgrades.

I'd do it in a heart beat. That's fine with me.

They're trying to acquire as many young assets as they can. They can then flip those assets for pitching or if it comes down to it, they have the money to go to the free agent market if necessary. With all of the top pitching talent and offensive talent signing extensions that buy out FA (prior to FA) I'd call this a failing strategy.

Then they should have kept Samardzija and Hammel and then traded for him. that would ahve given them quite the 1,2,3 punch. Then turn to FA for a few positions and then bring up prospects over the next couple years then they can contend. Right now they are 5+ years away. I'm sorry I don't get it. they can buld a complete bullpen in 2 years, and sign 2 big bats in FA and traded for Price, and perhaps still had some bats in the minors to bring up in a couple years to stablize the payroll. Point is they can field a decent team in a short period of time and they can be on short term deals till they find some good long term players.

I'm sorry, but I don't understand this at all what the Cubs are doing. Shouldn't they be active in FA or trade and go after 2 top young players that are stars and use the hundreds of millions that they have? Or sign some top older players to 1-2 years deals like bullpen pitchers and perhaps a position player. Like what the Brewers did with ramirez? That fan base must be very upset knowing they have all this money to spend and just want a decent team to follow while having some prospects in the system for a future. Cubs front office are idiots. Cubs fans should be pissed.

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Guys guys gusy, you know prospect rankings can change dramatically half way through a season, right? I can guarantee you that Nelson is views highly by any team looking to trade with the Brewers as a top can't miss prospect. Don't get so caught up with the prospect rankings. It's all about what the scout sees in the player when he gets sent to scout him for a trade. Nelson could be traded to get price and as long as the other players are mid-level with good upside we can get price with that deal. The Brewers can without question trade for Price. I'll tell you the Brewers I suspect will be in on Price till the end, and that would make Estrada available to trade for a good 1B man, which will be an upgrade. then just call up Jeffress and get Thornburg back healthy, and we have a WS team. I full expect DM to be all in this season the way things are going and he won't sit back. Expect a big splash to go for the WS. Also, DM said that Price is a lot like Sabathia, and we all know the Sabathia signing with the Yankees worked out very well for them the way it was structured. I'd bet the Brewers would be willing to do the same thing with an opt out clause. The Brewers also have way more money to play with, and lots of money coming off the books. We can extend the key players on this team and extend Price suck up the raises, and be competitive for the next 5+ years like we are right now. Mark said he's go in the red for an extended time if we had the right team in place. Don't forget we have an extra 25 million right now to play with and 36 million after next season with Weeks gone. In 2016 Lohs's 11 million will be off the books, which covers Brauns raise to 19 million that year. Khris Davis trade value will likely be high by that time and we can trade him for a SP, and the draft we just had should drastically improve our system to keep trading for a good SP should we need one. Price 25 million Gomez - 3 million raise and 15 million a year for 5 years should get him. he wants to stay in MKE. Lucroy - 7 million raise gallardo - 13 million a year for 3 years plus option. Peralta - long term deal buying out 2 years of FA when many players will be gone and off the books. Extra 3-5 million a year. extend ramirez at current rate, and defer money again for a 3 year deal. That's 35-40 million to keep this team in tact with Price extended long term. A Staff of Price, Peralta, gallardo would be awesome to build around and would be the most formidable in the NL.

The Brewers are the best team in baseball and will get even better when they call up Jeffress. No team worries me. This division in my eyes is already the Brewers. I hope the Reds keep the cards from the playoffs. I'd rather play the Reds, but neither can beat the Brewers in a best of 5 or 7. The Reds have already beaten the Brewers 5 out of 7...to suggest they couldn't win a playoff series against us is just silly. Cueto, Latos, Simon/Bailey/Leake will be very tough for the brewers to beat. I would also suggest you consider how the Brewers would fare against the Dodgers(Kershaw, Greinke, etc) before proclaming them the best team in baseball. Should we make the playoffs(likely) we will be an underdog in either of those series IMO. We have the best record in baseball. Underdog, really? LOL We done better against the teams that the Reds have played and our record proves that. My point remains.

Actually the way I see it STL by the time a trade for Price will be made will be fighting for a WC spot and will be more that 8-9 games out of 1st. Just look at the 7 games they play prior to ALL start break. PIT has proven they can beat up on the Cards, and so have we. Due to this I see the Cards looking more future this year than anything. They have to keep their farm system if they expect to be able to compete with us and the reds and Pitt in the many years ahead. I would trade Nelson and the farm for Price. Look at it this way, we will have Hellweg still next season, and we just had a terrific draft that could make our farm way better than it is currently, all the positions in the line-up are filled for the long term with young players except 1B. I'd trade the entire farm for price, and I would trade Estrada and Kintzler for a good 1B man. Have fires as the back up SP in Nashville and call up Jeffress, healthy Thornburg to the pen, then the Brewers would have just upgraded the Rotation with a true Ace, and the bullpen big time, and we can start thinking WS. That is if you haven't already. Go all in for Price. My reasoning that StL trades for Price is because A. They have the valuable prospects Tampa would at least ask for. B. since they are 6.5games back of Milw/at or near WC spot, adding Price would only secure a much more likely run the last 70games of the season or so to make the Playoffs. C. StL will have Price next season (to go and win 110games)and then give him a QO which for how they draft means a top 100 Prospect after 1 year. I really think Marco Gonzales is in St Louis' rotation right now as a showcase for Tampa to decide on for a Price trade. Thinking in lines that Trade A includes Martinez or Miller/Piscotty/Kaminsky Or trade B offers Taveras/Gonzales plus PTBNL C/B prospect depending on StL outcome for this season. At the very least we will be upping STL offer big time with a bidding war of prospects. That will actually hurt there organization.

RoCoBrewfan, What I'm saying there is I don't understand it.

Nottso, The wheels wont fall off.

Lol. Makes sense. I had to re-read that about 5 times to make sure I typed that properly. Lol... Anyways, anybody that questions the Brewers right now is ridiculous. The Brewers can win any series and beat anybody. They are on pace for something like 98-99 wins. They will go on another winning streak or two and IMO this will be the Best Brewers season in franchise history. I'm expecting over 100 wins, and a 10+ games lead at the end on whose ever in second place. I've never been this confident about this team ever. I'm thinking WS in June!

Actually the way I see it STL by the time a trade for Price will be made will be fighting for a WC spot and will be more that 8-9 games out of 1st. Just look at the 7 games they play prior to ALL start break. PIT has proven they can beat up on the Cards, and so have we. Due to this I see the Cards looking more future this year than anything. They have to keep their farm system if they expect to be able to compete with us and the reds and Pitt in the many years ahead. I would trade Nelson and the farm for Price. Look at it this way, we will have Hellweg still next season, and we just had a terrific draft that could make our farm way better than it is currently, all the positions in the line-up are filled for the long term with young players except 1B. I'd trade the entire farm for price, and I would trade Estrada and Kintzler for a good 1B man. Have fires as the back up SP in Nashville and call up Jeffress, healthy Thornburg to the pen, then the Brewers would have just upgraded the Rotation with a true Ace, and the bullpen big time, and we can start thinking WS. That is if you haven't already. Go all in for Price.

I do see an Estrada trade this mid-season to make room for Nelson. Estrada and his HR's is an issue for him in the bullpen. He is a good 4/5 SP, but only a SP. If the Rockies would take him for Morneau I'd do it. However, in that ball park I don't think they will. I'm not sure though. Something tells me that the Brewers are thinking bigger that Morneau... I think we could add a big time player at mid-season.

That would be awesome! That would be the best prediction of all time. Seriously.