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He'll get chances but likely his days as a Brewer are over. I can't see them offering him arbitration after this lost season. What would his arbitration number be? Won't that be his first year? Maybe $1.5-2 million at best.

im almost certain he will be a brewer. Consider this hearsay though. Im not an insider nor trying to one up anyone. But did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

except this isn't true. Through mid-June he had nearly the same amount of plate appearances as last year at the same point

While I don't want to give up Burnes or Arcia here, we are in a great position. We have the following players that are MLB, MLB-ready, or nearly ready, and not all will be a regular part of our core. We can afford to deal 4 or so for him. Domingo Santana Brett Phillips Troy Stokes Trent Grishom Jorge Lopez Adrian Houser Nick Ramirez Taylor Williams Jacob Barnes Brandon Woodruff Luis Ortiz Phil Bickford etc

Arica with three walks.

Good point. However, as someone who was very critical in real time with the Brewers' approach for years with the draft, and for good reason as has been proven, I think you will see a dramatic upturn with results from the draft starting with the last couple of years. You don't need to go underslot in the first round. You can go over, and still manipulate other signings to snag some mid top ten round talents later (past round 10) by saving money on seniors, injured, etc. I have no problem at all with picking up more upside guys even if the total number of guys being signed is much lower. I like the quality over quantity idea. There is a huge uptick in the Brewers' savvy in manipulating the dollar value of drafted (or internationally signed for that matter) guys, to the benefit of getting more upside guys while concomitantly signing fewer filler players. Any individual player may boom or bust, but if you get the numbers right, you can hit on some percentage of the guys, and you're going to succeed by having more legit talents developing. I think our draft results will be a 180 degree turnaround going forward, and we will have some more talent in the system, enough for trades and to rejuvenate the roster with youth every year. That's the sweet spot we are headed into going forward. That's why I continue to say that the posters worried about "gutting" the farm system through major trades are off base. Prospects are replaceable, especially now that they actually have a solid scouting staff and good draft decision makers in place. Just look at how much talent has been brought in since 2016 ... it's astonishing. Don't forget, with future stability in LF, CF, RF, 1b, 3b, and several pitching spots, the Brewers will have a finite amount of spots over the next several years. Excess players--even if currently in the plans--can be traded and hopefully replaced with good scouting and development

agent39, congrats to you and JJ. He’s really evolved as a pitcher (and likely as a person as well). It’s tremendous watching the growth. I love it when he shows his emotion as our pre-closer closer. His outs are often the biggest in the game.

We don’t know how many innings these guys through last year in the fall instructional.

Nice to see that Cal Eldred has a son in the minors, and he started against the H-Crew

I agree with you. Way too early to give up on the kid. He was really valuable last year. Not really a surplus position either. I'd be OK giving up outfielders and non-Burnes pitching. I definitely wouldn’t give up Arcia. He’s untouchable. But I need to note that fizz made a common mistake that I just don’t understand. Why do you think trading someone means we are giving up on them??? You trade value for value. The Mets may have given up on Harvey’s antics, but the brewers would not be giving up on Arcia, Santana, Broxton, or any other player they trade

Why? This is what he needs to say for free agency. JJ Hardy said this as well.

I'd prefer not to trade our only 3b and C prospects

I'd rather part with Broxton or Santana for obvious reasons. I love Phillips left-handedness, defense, and that he's controllable for longer.

Woodruff is in a typical Brewers’ mid season shut down. He’s likely doing some strength and conditioning focus without the pre/post start days and start-day lessened work load. I see Lopez and Bickford/Ortiz being key parts of the deal, with Broxton or Santana as well.

I'd say we're covered at 3b with Shaw, Perez, Miller, and Orf. Heck, Aguilar has played a game or two there. If we get Machado, he's there to start every day and keep the position warm for Arcia next year

I think we've figured out fair-value for Machado. We have a lot of depth right now. While not many are studs, there are a lot that are likely to be contributors. We likely don't have room in the future for all of these contributors: SP- Woodruff, Peralta, Wilkerson, Burnes, Hauser, Bickford, Ortiz, Medeiros, Ortega, Kirby, etc OF- Santana, Broxton, Phillips, Stokes, Taylor, Ray, etc I don't see us dealing a catcher or IF, but that gives us lots of depth to deal from.

Personally, I'd consider an offer a package like the following for Machado: Santana (semi-proven, affordable OF that can DH or play LF/RF) Ortiz Bickford Lopez Before people claim I'm giving them junk, realize they get 4 players that all are likely to be regulars in the majors for them. I could see them wanting Hiura but that isn't happening. I could also see them wanting Philips, but they may prefer a proven big leaguer like Broxton or Santana. To be honest, I would let them have their pick of 3-4 (depending on which they prefer) of Santana, Broxton, Stokes, Ortiz, Bickford, Lopez, Hauser, Supak, etc.

Hager and Moore shouldn't earn 40-man spots, but would be nice to re-sign

Nick Ramirez surely will get a look in Sept. I’d start DH’ing him more as well to get his bat back to speed

I agree with the first three, but is Supak worth protecting? Maybe I’ve overlooked him, but he’s not someone I would consider taking. Of Kirby, Bickford, Ponce, and Gatewood, I’d imagine teams would only be interested in Bickford’s stuff enough to stash for an entire season. With big 2018 seasons, all could be in play for that year’s rule 5 draft

I don’t use Facebook and so I miss these games. I want to watch games on my Apple TV and big screen. As my high school students have said for the last 4-5 years, Facebook is for moms.

Why not? we need Turang's bonus pool plus excess allowance to allow us to sign other players. Without Turang, aren't we now looking at forfeiting draft picks?

More than 1/3 of first-round picks remain unsigned. It would be an upset if all do not end up signing. This often goes down to the wire. It is what it is, teams and players both trying to maximize value. I felt like with the bonus pool caps, that whole going down to the wire thing changed. I remember when we signed Bradley/Jungmann, I recall negotiations not really even starting until a few hours before the deadline or something weird like that. It's obvious we can offer X, the only variable in play might be trying to save some for Daniel. Here's hoping it works out, I know you're right that most end up signing. I think each year somewhere between 0 and 2 1st round picks don't sign. Maybe it's just how I'm wired, but I can't understand turning down $4 million. Put it in super safe investments and live off $100k a year for life money at that age, without ever having to work if you don't want to. Turning it down, best case scenario is he goes to college and kills it...and gets $7 million in 3 years. Worst case...he gets a college education and $10k signing bonus as a senior if he's terrible or gets hurt. Living off $100k per year would last ~20-30 years, definitely not for life.

do we know Saladino will be back next week? It seems he should be in the minors for a while to get re-acclimated.

My immediate thought regarding an injury on a swing is the hamate bone. Hopefully Shaw doesn’t have a structural injury, but his prolonged slump tells us this has been a while