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Only the Brewers seemingly thought that for very strange reasons. They gave up on him because Yelich and Cain were producing and by big-contract-default were playing Braun. They royally mishandled Santana and undervalued him to play or to trade after a terrific 2017 season! Huh? Santana is an overall average player with limited tools. And we got fair value for him in the Gamel/Zavolas trade. Perhaps Zavolas turns into a better than average pitcher and it's a win-win all around. -
That's fair. Braun could have been traded a few years ago and we could have kept Santana and had whatever pieces we got back for Braun (basically anything if his whole contract was traded as well). Santana and Braun are very similar players production wise but obviously far different salary wise. Although last June Santana was on the verge of flaming out of the league, so all this 20/20 hindsight stuff is a little silly. We are really only 5 or 6 wins from having a nice division lead and everything mostly being hunky-dory. ALSO: Last year was a blast, and we were inches from a WS. That was fun.
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Before this year it was negotiable and waivers was revocable. Neither is the case anymore (I think. If no trades can be made I'm not sure what the point of "revocable" waivers would be). What's interesting is that in past years these things all happened behind the scenes until the trade was actually made, and then it was made public,so almost all veterans were "waived" then that player was either traded or the waiver was revoked if that player was claimed and no deal could be made...and nobody heard about it. I suppose the same will happen this year in that if a guy is waived and claimed then we'll hear about it, but if he is waived and NOT claimed it will be forgotten. I'm just curious who will be waived by the Brewers come August 22nd or so. And no, if we waive a guy and he is claimed the claimant takes on the entire contract as well.
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Sounds like me the last couple of years and this is exactly what I was worried about. Never really bottomed out, got lucky for a couple years with Casey McGehee like players like Shaw, traded prospects and now we're back exactly where we were except now the fan base probably won't tolerate a several year rebuild like they would've been willing to in 2015. The only veteran signing that might hamstring us a bit is Cain. And if you are actually going to say that you regret the Yelich trade you are straight up lying. We've had no pitchers step up this year other than Woodruff, and we had a lot of guys who could/should have. That's not on Stearns, and is mostly unavoidable (unless DJ was retainable?)
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Tampa could use him. No way they take on that contract. I already miss the August waiver wire deals. Anderson, Jeffress, Moose and Grandal are candidates as well.
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We are still at least 2 weeks of poor play away from this, but a large part of me hopes it happens.
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They weren't last weekend. And don't be sorry. I just have a hard time criticizing Stearns for this year, and I don't know what deals or moves he COULD have made but DIDN'T make. If the Aguilar and Dubon deals are any indication, we were neither going to get great value by selling our expiring contracts OR by buying a true upgrade. Things are still looking better THIS year AND for future years than they have for 25 out of the past 30 years. That's more of a sorry statement about our franchise history than anything positive right now. I don't totally disagree with your 4th sentence, but the Dubon trade was just silly and made no sense either for now or the future. At the end of the day it just looks like Stearns fell in love with Ray Black's arm and couldn't help himself. The Cubs have at least of good of a lineup if not better, probably a slightly better pen and a far, far better rotation. I mean it's really not that complicated. How they stacked against up against us in one particular regular season series is irrelevant, the Orioles could be better than the Yankees in one series. I agree. Dubon could have been handy as an optionable IF depth piece the next couple of years, and the Pom/Black return was underwhelming. Still it's a minor trade that will likely be completely negligible whether we made it or not. I'm glad we didn't try to make a bigger splash (buying or selling) that would have had bigger consequences. Then again, we haven't had a good history the last 6 years of letting middle IFers go...Stearns needs Black to really turn out.
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And both players are out of options after this year, meaning nothing was lost. If either guy would have made the 25 man roster out of Spring Training next year Stearns would have had the worst offseason in the history of GMs.
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They weren't last weekend. And don't be sorry. I just have a hard time criticizing Stearns for this year, and I don't know what deals or moves he COULD have made but DIDN'T make. If the Aguilar and Dubon deals are any indication, we were neither going to get great value by selling our expiring contracts OR by buying a true upgrade. Things are still looking better THIS year AND for future years than they have for 25 out of the past 30 years.
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Nobody trades a fair value for catchers at the deadline and nobody needed a decent third basemen. Tampa, maybe, but we already probably overpaid for Faria so I doubt we get anything better by adding Moose. Buying a real SP upgrade would have cost Turang, Grisham, or young pitching. So we got some pieces for Dubon. That's something. I'm not happy with the team's performance this year, but I think Stearns has done a fine job (other than maybe giving DJ a big raise to keep him (if that would have indeed actually kept him). Selling was the move that would’ve took some guts after last seasons experience but it would’ve been the smart one. We missed it. Getting to watch an all star catcher and 3B finish third in the division are our consolation prize. I would’ve respected the hell out of Stearns for realizing what we are and trying to better us for a possible run next season. Huh? I agree...IF we could actually get some young talent in return. You responded to my post without actually responding to anything I wrote. If we couldn't, standing pat is better than quitting on the season and getting very little. There is well over 1/4 of the season to be played, and we still have enough talent to make it fun to watch. We have 17 more games against the Cubs and Cards, and neither of those 2 teams are so much better than us that we don't have a chance. I'm glad we didn't sell (unless Stearns turned down an overpay), and I'm glad we didn't buy.
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Nobody trades a fair value for catchers at the deadline and nobody needed a decent third basemen. Tampa, maybe, but we already probably overpaid for Faria so I doubt we get anything better by adding Moose. Buying a real SP upgrade would have cost Turang, Grisham, or young pitching. So we got some pieces for Dubon. That's something. I'm not happy with the team's performance this year, but I think Stearns has done a fine job (other than maybe giving DJ a big raise to keep him (if that would have indeed actually kept him).
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Come on man. Frustrating times for sure, but if a professional athlete would quit based on likeliness or winning, half the games wouldn’t be played. That’s absurd. They have careers, families to provide for, they’re not quitting anything. Clearly the point is wayyyy over your head. LOL. I don't exactly know what I'm laughing at other than this entire exchange. Lots of ins and outs and what-have-yous.
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This...seems like a big reach. It's likely the same lineup minus Grandal and Moose next year. How that will translate to better late inning offense I'm not really sure. It was just a general comment league wide for all late inning scenarios, not necessarily Cubs vs. Brewers. Although Maddon uses Loogys and Roogys more often than others.
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This is the situation that will not happen next year. Yelich-Hiura-Grandal-Braun coming up. Madden can play the matchups and relieve as needed right now, but next year he has to start the inning off knowing that the guy will have to face the first three guys then have Braun on deck. Should slightly increase the late inning offense.
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It's hard to bring up the young guys before August as they pitched in A ball last year, so you obviously want them to get some time in the upper minors before bringing them up, so it would be after the All-Star break at the earliest. However, then you might as well wait until you get closer to September so you don't risk burning an option year for them (at least for Perdomo and Williams. Supak is already on the 40 man so he has already burned his option year. No excuse to keep him down IF he is ready and if he is needed). We are getting to that time though.
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That was a strange passed ball...I think Contreras was crossed up, but usually you can stop the offspeed cross ups right down the middle.
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Grisham gets the AB over Gamel and Shaw...C'mon kid.
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Gigantic inning from Albers there. Heart of the order goes down quick right after we tied it up.
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I don't know. I eat WAY more junk food than I should...
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Great 2 strike approach from Braun. His whole goal was to get the barrel of the bat on the ball...sacrificed his power to get that done.
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A 2 out RBI? Braun must have been up.
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So your requested changes are sit Yelich and release Jeffress. Got it. Well, we are done here. No point in a discussion when you pull crap like this. Foolish man. You look foolish. Huh? Those were your ideas. Then you and others just seemed to be ranting because our bullpen sucks. Which is true, it does suck, but not for a lack of trying new arms. And then the lament becomes "cycling through bad players isn't working...try something new!" Huh? You mean like sticking WITH the bad arms and not cycling through guys? Well, no...get NEW guys.... Okay, Stearns has acquired 4 arms in the last week+. "Then PLAY those arms!" Lyles started last week and did well. Pomeranz pitched yesterday and did well. Black is working through stuff in AAA and Faria was optioned so he has to be down for 10 days. "The bullpen sucks! Try something different! Sit Yelich for a day so Grisham can play against a lefty!"
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Faria and Black were both optioned. They have to stay down for 10 days. One of them probably should have been added to the roster right away for Jay Jackson. But they weren't, so we'll have Wilkerson as the last guy in the pen for awhile. EDIT: Faria was recalled by TB before we acquired him so I'm pretty sure he as to stay down, anyway. Black has barely pitched in MLB this year and isn't really tearing up AAA. Not sure if he is available to be called up or not since he was already in the minors when we traded for him?
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Exactly. We've had a short leash in the BP and given dozens of guys a chance to stick. No complaints from me about that. There might be 1-5 clubs in MLB who are actually happy with the depth and strength of their bullpen. You have to just keep looking, and Stearns is obviously doing that by acquiring 4 more arms in the last week+. Sheesh.
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Meh. Before this year Devin Williams and Angel Perdomo hadn't pitched above A+ ball, so they definitely needed more seasoning. They'll get their chance, and maybe soon. Miguel Sanchez has been mediocre at AAA this year. Is there somebody else you have in mind? There isn't much else you can do other than keep hoping somebody finds something. It's a much better strategy than signing an overpriced mediocre veteran who likely also sucks so you are either forced to eat the contract or continually put him on the mound. I'd rather cycle through mediocre guys than keep trotting out the SAME mediocre guy(s), especially if you are paying millions for that mediocrity (see Jeffress, J.).
