Thanks for the well reasoned and patient response. I guess I am surprised that you think the Brewers could get a good return (you state "Segura or better") by trading Hart and/or Ramirez. Their value is, for all intents and purposes, limited to their 2013 seasons due to their contracts/decline. Do to this, I'm inclined to respectfully disagree on this point. Because I'm not convinced of a good return, I think their values are stronger as our middle-of-the-order representation for next year (and I think sometimes the value of one good season of baseball is undervalued. Sure we won't get a prospect return when Hart hits free agency, but we'll have him for his 31-year old season). I agree that ONE reason for the Cardinals' sustained success is due to organizational depth, but I would argue that a far more important reason for their success is their having premier players (Carpenter, Wainwright, Pujols, Holliday, Molina(?)) surrounded by their "depth". Returning to the thread topic, I see lots of Craigs and Carpenters and not enough Beltrans or Freeses in our system. I see Westbrooks and Lohses, but not any Wainwrights, Lynns, or Mottes. Hopefully I am way off, and guys like Khrush and The Mayor will be true middle-of-the-order threats.