If Counsell starts Garza, and it costs them a playoff spot in the long run, Counsell should lose his job!! Garza should not pitch again this year unless it is mop up innings one way or the other. He NEEDS to be done! Any managerial decision to start Matt Garza should cost that manager his job. What if Garza starts and has a good outing? Does Counsell still lose his job or does he get to keep it? Just trying to keep track of all this. I'm guessing players will lose all respect for CC if he names Garza starter, and he'll be fired. Then Garza has a good outing, players respect CC again and he is re-hired. Garza gets a 2nd start, gets rocked. Now CC, Stearns, Uecker, and Hank the Dog are all fired. Players lose respect for Ed Sedar and Jerry Augustine, but they keep their jobs. Finally, players DO respect the Italian Racing Sausage, but he's fired anyhow. Man are you a disrespectful person. Do you feel better about yourself now? Exactly the type of posts that cloud up these threads and make this place absolute crap. Either give your opinion or don't. But don't be a turd to others in the process. I'm not sure why that is such a hard thing for people these days.