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  1. Happy for him but sure wish it was Woodruff today. Just can't really get excited to watch this guy pitch. At least in the only time I seen him, nothing stood out really. Either way, here's hoping for another W today.
  2. I think it's funny that Brewers fans deride the Cardinals and their fans for all that "play the game the right way" and "the Cardinal Way" stuff, but as soon as we get a few players who play the game with some exuberance and flair and excitement, we want our players to "play the game the right way" and such. I love me a good bat flip, FWIW. I can't even imagine a pitcher in MLB who's head wouldn't outright explode if a player did something like that. Anyways....... I'm getting off topic. It'd just be nice if everyone at least pretended to want every Brewer player to be successful, even if only to improve their trade value.... I love flair and emotion..... has nothing to do why Villar should play less and Sogard more. Insulting as a Wisconsinite. Does "playing the right way" include batting .210 lead off with avg defense and a low on base %? Maybe not for you but for a lot, the hate started well before his current batting average.
  3. You mean those same Wisconsinites that loved players like "T Plush," and who have loudly cheered on players from countries all over the world (including cheering for Villar last season) as long as that player helps the team win? There were many, many people who hated Tplush even as he was helping us win games. Tplush was the definition of fake love because he too was a different breed of a ball player. Maybe it's wrong but Cheppelle shouldve done his white guy impersonation of the "right" way to play the game of baseball. Not because of the race part but the uprightness of that character that he portrayed. Would've been a great sketch, well if people can laugh at themselves.
  4. I think it's funny that Brewers fans deride the Cardinals and their fans for all that "play the game the right way" and "the Cardinal Way" stuff, but as soon as we get a few players who play the game with some exuberance and flair and excitement, we want our players to "play the game the right way" and such. I love me a good bat flip, FWIW. I can't even imagine a pitcher in MLB who's head wouldn't outright explode if a player did something like that. Anyways....... I'm getting off topic. It'd just be nice if everyone at least pretended to want every Brewer player to be successful, even if only to improve their trade value.... Baseballs unwritten rules. Don't get me started. And your last statement is spot on.
  5. "Here comes the loss" when the bullpen enters the game is pretty justifiable since it's the category we actually lead the league in. Villar, like Gomez, plays the game a different way than a lot of players in the league and anything different, especially to a bunch of Wisconsinians, is usually not a great mix. It is what it is I guess. Hopefully he'll go on a long hot streak so people can fake the love for a bit at least.
  6. Couldn't agree more Plush. I've said it a few times. Hopefully last night really was day one of his season and he is ready for battle now because this team, even as great as Sogard has been, could use the Villar of a season ago in that leadoff spot.
  7. If THIS is what you're referring to, it sounds as though he just cares and wants to rebound. Good for him.
  8. June 7th and back in sole possession of 1st place!
  9. Hopefully tonight is the spring board game for Villar. CC has played his cards right more often than not this season. Finish this one please!
  10. Maybe it's Counsells way of saying hey, I'm behind you, it's go time. Now or never for you this season time. Might be trying to jump start his season a bit.
  11. They both had very good seasons a year ago. (3.9WAR for Villar and 2.1WAR for Broxton. Yelich had 5.3WAR a season ago. Villar and Broxton are both making league minimum while Yelich is on the hook for almost $60 millionth through 2022. It wouldn't be out of this world if some GM thought they could get two players that could cover up two spots on the field for cheap. Now maybe we would need to toss in a prospect but it's all in the eyes of the beholder of what they think on Broxton and Villar.
  12. If that's going to be the rest of the season I definitely agree but I thought someone mentioned that it was just a couple time thing.
  13. I just can't see calling up Hader as a relieve this early. Maybe in July after the all star break but I think he needs his work as a starter too.
  14. Here is what you are mad about. Nothing rally there that is condescening towards you at all. And not debating your points? Everything you responded with came back with a very reasonable answer to your posts. You got frustrated, flustered, whatever you want to call it and went back to the personal attacks on me. I'm not having it anymore from you. I didn't say anything that was out of line towards you. I had a difference of opinion(I guess, even though you don't 95% of the time) and you STILL wanted to argue with me over churning the pen by bringing in completely hypothetical scenarios. Now then... Now, to your other points. The Knebel one, of course cutting him loose would have been a bad idea. Never said it would've been a good one so I'm not sure the point you are making here. He had options and the Brewers wisely used that last year on a younger pitcher. Guys like Drake on the other hand, if they are costing you ball games, and for awhile these guys have, you chance it that you can get them to your AAA team to allow them to work it out. Chances are if they are costing you games, other major league teams won't want the same issues. Either way, there are guys at the AA/AAA level who have done their jobs and could be promoted even if you don't feel confidence in them. I'm not saying they'll be great, or even good, but to just ignore their results so far is another thing.
  15. As someone with no horse in this race, adam is right. You argue just to argue most of the time. And he is doing it this time. You're no angel either. My first comment about churning the pen wasn't directed at him at all. Wasn't directed at anyone in particular. He dragged me into his mess of an argument against it (even though 95% of the time he says otherwise). That's why it's annoying. He's on record over and over basically advocating what I did and now he wants to argue against it.
  16. Yeah I agree Plush. If there a deal(s) to be had that don't strip the farm, go get it if you think it can help this team make the playoffs. Always amazing to me that we've made the playoffs what, 4 times in 50 years and we even have to have a conversation about trying to make them.
  17. No, it's condescending because you're being condescending and rude as you often do when people argue with you, when all I was trying to do is get you to understand the point I was making, not argue to argue. Never once did I say Knebel is comparable to any of our other relievers. I simply pointed out, how big of a loss would it be I'd we had decided based on his 2016 that he wasn't a big part of our future based and perhaps traded him. More goes into a decision than just recent results, that's all I was saying. I don't deny that I have said things of a reactionary nature in a game thread based on an emotional response of what happened in the moment. Who hasn't? I find it funny that you try to call me out in arguing and you're no better. Yore emotional to everything. I'll go personal if you do. Not putting up with you and your antics to argue, just to argue. I'm glad that you at least acknowledge your overreacting on the game threads. But back on point, I guess if there is one. Another make believe scenario of now trading Knebel that didn't happen and that I never said I wanted to happen with any of our players. Churning 30 year old relievers from your MLB team to your AAA is not a big deal at all. For some reason you want to make it one. Even though your words just about everywhere else say otherwise.
  18. Oh my... first off no, Peralta deserves some time in the pen since he just switched and hasn't been too bad there anyways. If he sucks after while, then yeah, you get rid of him. And secondly, OF COURSE you get rid of guys no matter their service time. This is the major leagues for petes sake. The only different being is if they can be optioned, you can for sure stick them at AAA and if they have no options you face possibly losing them if another team claims them. Whoopty doooo. Not sure what the hell youre exactly arguing here. Churn that damn bullpen as many times as you can and find major league production. I'm not advocating if you suck once you get sent down. The guys I say to move on from have sucked for a long enough period of time now. Can't even fathom what the hell youre arguing here. Just forget it. Just trying to point out why I made the comparisons I did and the disadvantages and risks of giving up on a guy too soon if your evaluation of them dictates that there's still something there that could be useful. Per usual you just get mad and condescending anytime anyone disagrees or tries to debate with you so there's really no point. It's only condecsending because you're arguing just to argue. Your comparisons aren't close. You name drop Knebel like he's any comparison to Scahill, Drake, etc. Simply saying you don't think they've had enough time is one thing. We can simply disagree on that. What you stated is just not comparable. And knowing how often you call for the heads of the guys I listed in the game thread, it's just too much.
  19. I hope they cut him so we can grab him and turn him back into a pitcher again. What fun would that be from the Lucroy trade.
  20. So when you said get rid of guys that are not producing, what you really meant get rid of guys who are not producing as long as they are controllable and highly regarded. Good to know. So...wouldn't Peralta Oh my... first off no, Peralta deserves some time in the pen since he just switched and hasn't been too bad there anyways. If he sucks after while, then yeah, you get rid of him. And secondly, OF COURSE you get rid of guys no matter their service time. This is the major leagues for petes sake. The only different being is if they can be optioned, you can for sure stick them at AAA and if they have no options you face possibly losing them if another team claims them. Whoopty doooo. Not sure what the hell youre exactly arguing here. Churn that damn bullpen as many times as you can and find major league production. I'm not advocating if you suck once you get sent down. The guys I say to move on from have sucked for a long enough period of time now. Can't even fathom what the hell youre arguing here.
  21. I too would love to see him get some high stress innings. Let him be the 7th inning man for a couple of weeks. I know he's got the stamina for multiple innings but I would like to see him get three outs consistently.
  22. They did, he was optioned last year. Unforunately the current guys don't so they will have to DFA them. Right, and DFAing a guy is a whole lot different than optioning them. Optioning a guy is not giving up on him. Of course if we had somewhere to send Drake and Torres to see if they can work out the kinks and try some new arms up here I'd be for it. I'm not arguing that we shouldn't option some of these guys and try new ones if we had that choice but we don't. Your comparing Knebel who was highly regarded, young, controllable to bums who have been cut by other teams. You assume these bums would be picked up by other teams. Churning the rosters of the Scahills of this world is nothing like Knebel of a year ago. No relevance. Apples to hand grenades.
  23. Comparing Knebel to anything in our pen (other than Corey himself) is just bad. Apples to hand grenades bad.
  24. Yep just keep trotting Torres out there too. Let him work through it. Almost cost them a 5-run lead tonight by himself. Won't always be that lucky.
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