Here is what you are mad about. Nothing rally there that is condescening towards you at all. And not debating your points? Everything you responded with came back with a very reasonable answer to your posts. You got frustrated, flustered, whatever you want to call it and went back to the personal attacks on me. I'm not having it anymore from you. I didn't say anything that was out of line towards you. I had a difference of opinion(I guess, even though you don't 95% of the time) and you STILL wanted to argue with me over churning the pen by bringing in completely hypothetical scenarios. Now then... Now, to your other points. The Knebel one, of course cutting him loose would have been a bad idea. Never said it would've been a good one so I'm not sure the point you are making here. He had options and the Brewers wisely used that last year on a younger pitcher. Guys like Drake on the other hand, if they are costing you ball games, and for awhile these guys have, you chance it that you can get them to your AAA team to allow them to work it out. Chances are if they are costing you games, other major league teams won't want the same issues. Either way, there are guys at the AA/AAA level who have done their jobs and could be promoted even if you don't feel confidence in them. I'm not saying they'll be great, or even good, but to just ignore their results so far is another thing.