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  1. SoCalBrewfan
    Well, Bob Lemon played 14 games in the OF in '46 and '47, while he was primarily a pitcher. FWIW, he played CF, his range factor was above league average, and he even had two assists in those handful of games. He wasn't a great hitter in '46, but he hit .321/.387/.607 in '47, to go with a 11-5, 3.48 ERA. He had some very good years with the bat, hitting 18 HR total during the years '48, '49, '50, putting up OPS that were above league average each year...at the same time he won 20 games each year with ERAs usually a run or more below league average...he was in the top 10 for the MVP each year...obviously a bit better than Brooks. But of course Lemon's in the HOF.
  2. SoCalBrewfan
    He's quoting literature: "Are you lost daddy," I asked tenderly. "Shut up," he explained. Ring Lardner, The Young Immigrants
  3. SoCalBrewfan
    he 70s should be forgotten when it comes to turn back the clock nights. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
  4. SoCalBrewfan
    Fortunately, there is no permanent record of the bf.net draft-day chat, and all the stupid things I said about Mr. Fielder and the wasted pick. In my defense, I was a moron. Though I will note that Sergio Santos is rocking in the high-A Cal League!
  5. SoCalBrewfan
    I think 20 first rounders have signed...but the ones who have not are telling...picks 1-4 remain unsigned, along with the two top HS pitchers (Danks and Allison) and prep OF Lastings Milledge. I would guess these are the guys who pose the biggest challenges to Uncle Bud's bonus slotting system...certainly they are the type of players that often go for considerably more, with high profiles and lots of leverage. Also two college pitchers, Maholm and Sullivan are still unsigned...which may not do much for my theory. Many (7 out of 10) of the unsigned 2nd rounders are HS kids...including brewerfan favorites like Sweeney, Flaig, Tiffany, plus Andrew Miller at the top of the 3rd. It just might be harder this year to go over slot money to sign a guy who slips to a position he didn't expect. Meanwhile, in a stunning development, former Brewer pick and Boras pawn Steven White has yet to sign with the Yanks.
  6. SoCalBrewfan
    Yes, apparently Prince read the criticism from colbyjack when he was surfing over to read his brewerfan interview. Either that or offense heats up when the weather does.... Meanwhile, there are two catchers in Helena hitting .400 after almost a month...and Gabe Mendoza is wishing for his return to the cool Beloit spring...
  7. SoCalBrewfan
    On a slightly happier note, how about that Tony Gwynn, Jr.? And people doubted his placement on the Power 50. Heck, send him to High Desert. Tony's hot start is seriously pressing Krynzel's long term role in center field. Gwynn is clearly the better defender, and my guess is is that he's going to catch up to Dave sooner than later. All the sudden, we might have a corner OF prospect. I think skepticism about Gwynn was and still is legit, based on his college performance. He's off to a nice start, but I'd like to see a couple of months of performance before I get all clancyphile about him. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif As for catching Krynzel...well, Dave is probably ready for AAA, so Gwynn still has some catching up to do. And Gwynn is less than a year younger than Dave...so it remains to be seen who has a brighter future...Krynzel still should be several spots higher on the p50, imo. Why do you say that Gwynn is clearly the better defender? I thought we didn't draft him for his defense? http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif
  8. SoCalBrewfan
    Not having read the relevant portions of the CBA, but isn't this collusion? The relationship of the draft to the CBA is somewhat shaky because signees are not yet members of the union...perhaps those who sign major league contracts are exceptions. And the players union, which represents major leaguers, seems to think that big bonuses for unproven rookies just takes money out of their members' pockets...so this is not an issue they are willing to fight over. That's how I understand it anyway...
  9. SoCalBrewfan
    It's funny how a paltry sum of a few hundred thousand dollars is sneered at by fans who want to get their guy signed. As Chris said, there is a very real chance that this is it for Rickie Weeks...he could blow out his shoulder or knee or whatever two weeks after signing. And the difference between initial negotiating positions is probably more like a million dollars...Weeks is quoting Upton numbers, and the Brewers are quoting the slot number coming from the commish. If we were another team, I'm guessing we could flip Bud the bird and get him signed for Bullington money tomorrow. Guess what?
  10. SoCalBrewfan
    Actually, Gwynn is well known for his speed and defense. In fact, BA rated him the best defensive player among college draftees: BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER College 1 Anthony Gwynn, of, San Diego State (59) 2 Tony Richie, c, Florida State (76) 3 Javi Herrera, c, Tennessee (56) He was also rated the third-fastest baserunner...you could very well argue that he's a pure tools pick, even though he was a college player...
  11. SoCalBrewfan
    Gwynn homered tonight...maybe this young fella can hit a bit after all...meanwhile it looks like Ben H. gave up a single run in the 2nd and a solo HR in the 4th. Welcome back!
  12. SoCalBrewfan
    The performance of 22-year-old LHP Eric Henderson (10th round, 99), stands out... I'm pretty sure he was actually a 4th rounder that year...he and 3rd rounder Dane Artman had some of us thinking, hot dog, finally some LHP in the system...four years and a surgery or two later, Henderson is back in the Pioneer League...
  13. SoCalBrewfan
    Billy Hall in center field? Did I read that right?
  14. SoCalBrewfan
    Let me start by saying that I agree with you completely, colby...except that you're holding Prince to a pretty high standard numbers-wise. Right now he leads the MWL in OBP and is 4th in SLG. He's fourth in homers and leads the league in RBI. OK, you say, he should be leading in everything. There are guys who are more dominant! But wait. The guy leading the league in slugging is Yankees farmhand Jayson Drobiak. Drobiak is 24, and has an OBP of 327. A's farmhand Nelson Cruz is 2nd in the league in HR, and RBI, 3rd in SLG, but has a .329 OBP, and turns 23 in a week. Mariners farmhand Matt Hagen is second in SLG, 3rd in HR, 5th in RBI, has a decent but hardly spectacular.359 OBP, and is already 23 years old. And then there's Prince, six weeks past his 19th birthday, second in the league in walks. One of these things is not like the others... Remember when you examine Prince's numbers...the league BA is in the high .240s, and there are only 7 batting title qualifiers hitting .300. This ain't the mountain air of the Pioneer League. Now I'd like to see Prince hitting for a better average, hitting more doubles, drawing more unintentional walks...I'd like to see him recognize that it is a weakess to expand your strike zone in the eighth inning if all you have to show for the day is two BB. But to fault his numbers at this point is pretty tough judging...
  15. SoCalBrewfan
    Am I reading correctly that Palmisano threw out 2 basestealers? Looks like he's no Jason Belcher defensively...
  16. SoCalBrewfan
    Three comments: Yeah, pretty impressive by the H-stars, against two pretty hot Braves pitching prospects. Secondly, whenever I read the Greenville boxscores, I think of the Islets of Langerhans... Third, does Kremblas get an assist for the following play, a 2-8-2? http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif
  17. SoCalBrewfan
    For what it's worth, Billy Beane is not the only one who's done well by ignoring conventional wisdom, or rather by exploiting conventional wisdom to pick up players undervalued by traditional scouting. Houston has built up their farm system pretty cheaply by focusing on college seniors and short pitchers, by helping to pioneer the DFE process, as well as by being very successful in Venezuela early on. Not being afraid of short pitchers netted them talent like Oswalt, Nannini, and Wagner, and their college seniors include Jason Lane, Morgan Ensberg... To me Beane has done well in part because of his sabremetrics, but the crucial part of the equation is value...if you can reliably assign a value to players, then you can see which players are undervalued by other teams. In some cases that's a Hatteberg, in others it's a short pitcher like Oswalt or, say, Ruddy Lugo. Whereas other organizations pay for things that may or may not exist, like the defense and veteran leadership provided by Royce Clayton. EDIT: Oh, and clearly he got pretty lucky with those three pitchers. Yeah, college pitchers blah blah blah...it's rare that everything goes so right as it has with those guys.
  18. SoCalBrewfan
    The players from the 2002 draft chosen around where Opdyke was got bonuses in the $225K range...I'd be surprised if he was a lot different from that...maybe $250K? I can't see him getting two or three times that...but of course what do I know?
  19. SoCalBrewfan
    Cotter, here's something I posted last week that gives a sense of what last year's bonuses were for our draftees... Other relevant signing bonuses from last year: #2 overall: $4.6M Picks #41/42/43: around $900K (I left out 39 and 40 who were budget choices by A's and Reds.) Picks #100 - 103: around $400K (our guy, from PR, might get less?) Picks #130-133: around $225K 6th/7th rounders: 100 to 200 K, with wild variations So the guys chosen at about the same point as Gwynn got around $900K last year...I'd expect him to be in that range, maybe $925K or so? I don't know what Fermaint signed for, but I would not be surprised if it were quite a bit less than $400K. Opdyke should be in the vicinity of $250K, though in another thread some wildly different numbers were mentioned (from a newspaper article).
  20. SoCalBrewfan
    Wow...I had only heard of triskaidekaphobia before...but I guess that's just the fear of the number 13, not Friday the 13th. I guess now that I've learned something new I should go home for the day... http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif dictionary.reference.com/...09/13.html members.cox.net/newfreedom/list.html
  21. SoCalBrewfan
    They're required to send a written offer within ten days or something similar (that's the loophole that got Travis Lee to Arizona for $10M)...I'm sure each of the two sides have a good idea what the other has in mind. Weeks' agent will be talking about B.J. Upton and his $4.6M at #2 overall last year, maybe will start with a request for $5M or more. The Brewers will be starting quite a bit below that...given the commish's dictates about bonuses, maybe in the $3M range? If / when Young signs that will push things towards one end or the other. In the end I think everyone knows he's likely to get about what Bullington got last year, $4M, so I think it's not going to drag on too long...JMHO of course.
  22. SoCalBrewfan
    I think BA rated him the best defensive player among college draftees...pretty impressive.
  23. SoCalBrewfan
    welcome mneskarous, and thanks for your summary! Jack Z said that he actually liked the group of catchers in this year's draft. I guess that's good news since he drafted 2 in the first five rounds, three or four in the first fourteen (depending on Corporan), and then two more on the second day.
  24. SoCalBrewfan
    I think that's a consistent theme of Jack Z drafts...good pitchers can come out of the middle rounds. And it's hard to argue with the track record (Wilhelmsen, Sarfate, Yeatman, etc). It's also consistent with the story from BP I posted earlier. They got some interesting arms in rounds #5 - 10...would love to see one turn into this year's version of Tom Wilhelmsen or Ben Hendrickson. I have to say, the guys who can run scare me...I'd rather have some guys who can hit. I'm fearful of Fermaint and all the raw speedster types. Someday maybe one of those guys will work out...but a lot just never hit enough.
  25. SoCalBrewfan
    And a response that answers the mystery of Greg Moviel: Q: &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Mike Doyle from Valparaiso, IN asks: What are the chances that the White Sox can sign Donald Veal andor Greg Moviel? A: &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Jim Callis: Arizona HS LHP Veal (12th round) turned down a $500,000 offer from the Yankees and likely will attend the University of Arizona unless the White Sox give him $750,000. Ohio HS LHP Moviel (15th) is a top student committed to Vanderbilt and probably won't sign either. But they're good late-round gambles in case the Sox don't sign one of their early picks.
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