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OK, anyone who thinks clutch doesn't exist must have never interacted with another human being before. Do you know people who can talk to you just fine but then completely tense up giving a large presentation? Do you know people who can talk to their sister no problem but completely tense up talking to a random woman at a bar? Do you know someone who is really smart but "can't take tests"? Did you know someone in little league who was praying that ball wasn't hit to them with the bases loaded, but love taking grounders in practice? The people who do not fall into these categories are "clutch" The problem is that most people think clutch is a magical thing that makes you better, but rather clutch is really the ability to not choke. That is why there is no "evidence" for it, because people are looking for someone to consistently hit 50 points higher with RISP than without over their entire career or something. There is plenty of evidence for clutch because people don't hit 50 points lower consistently over their entire career in ties games etc. I think a minimum requirement for being a professional athlete is that you have to be clutch. If not you will get weeded out before the professional level. So relative clutch-ness is not very different across the league. We agree on that one !! Pretty much what I've said on the topic. It's more that choking is a thing, not that people get magically better in clutch
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Well the Why has been explained, unless you just want to get rid of that runners can't run on fly balls then this needs to exist. That runners can't just run on fly balls is a core rule of baseball, therefore not arbitrary and dumb. You asked Why, we gave Why and now you say you don't care because the Why is dumb anyway. It is what it is, if you get rid of it kills the flow/integrity of the game by using this trickery/gamesmanship to cheat for outs. 1.5 hours from game time though. Let's focus on more important things like clutch, what David ortiz thinks, DWTS, and what kind of speech Coach Cooper would give before a game like this
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I think they like making LA take out their lefties and then being able to counter with a hard throwing righty like Woodruff/Burnes.
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IDK how you guys do it. This has happened twice in my life, not gonna miss it.
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A 2 runner in the 1st sure would be nice.
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I think the move would've been only walking Bellinger. With Guerra's frequent spiking of the breaking ball and splitter you don't want to walk the bases loaded and open up the wild pitch. Also want to leave wiggle room in case of a legit walk. Plus want the next inning to start with the P if you can make it happen
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Cain has great vs LH splits, plays great D and has been one of your top 3 players at all times this year. You don't bench him after a couple bad games. It's that simple. Also, due to all his postseason exp he is clutch so you can't. HAHA
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Maybe you don't know what the rule is, but it is not in effect with one guy on base, and no it does not allow you to turn a DP if the hitter doesn't hustle. If the hitter stands at the plate he is already out and there is no chance at a DP. Right, so why can you do that on a ground ball but not a fly ball? I don't necessarily think the rule should go away, just that it is dumb because it exists for this reason and in my opinion there is no good answer to my basic question: Why are you allowed to turn a DP on a ground ball but not a fly ball. Also, if you don't want your runners in no man's land then don't hit an infield fly. Back in game 3 Braun hit a ball that sort of left Yelich in no man's land, so should there be some rule to prevent that from happening? You misinterpreted what I said. Because it doesn't exist with only one on you ARE allowed to turn a DP on a fly ball if the hitter doesn't hustle. That seems to be your main point, again you are allowed in that situation or any flyball when a guy doesn't go back. It goes into effect when there is more on so that you can't double off people who are not the hitter who had nothing to do with it. You'd be doubling two runners off, not "double playing" the hitter. The tradeoff is that yes when more on than one you can't, that is what it is. Simplest answer to Why that you're all about here is simply because in a groundball situation there is no ability to play trickery with runners, in this situation there is.
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Just a thought: How about pitchers, specifically closers. Would they be more likely to be classified as clutch performers (if it is a thing) as some perform better with a high leverage situation than with say a 5 run lead? Most closers don't choke. In fact, most pitch better in those higher intensity situations. Good question. Never thought of that way. Spitballing I'd say that their normal closer self is the real them and the non close situation they lose focus a bit. Similar to say if it's a 15-2 game and Braun just basically flushes an AB down the drain because it doesn't matter. Beyond that, I'd also guess that it is our perception due to noticing when it happens but it's probably not supported by stats. Open to hear anyone else's thoughts though.
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IGT thread that the rule should not exist. You have still dodged the question. Why should you be allowed to turn a DP on a ground ball but not a fly ball? I said it. First, you can if the runner does not run hard to first with one guy on base. So it does allow a DP on a flyball if you don't hustle. so it allows a DP involving the hitter. The rule prevents you from doubling up other people who were already on base and not the hitter. And prevents possible crap triple plays. Beyond that, it eliminates the gamesmanship BS that would create a mess on the field anytime of an infield fly with multiple runners where the runners are caught in no man's land. This is all obvious to everyone but you apparently.
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If people missed it earlier, again I think the right way to discuss clutchness is that people are more likely to choke but you don't all of a sudden get better due to a 'clutch' situation. You just don't let it bother you and you are your normal self, that is all the more 'clutch' you can be. Long story short, choking is probably a real thing but all of a sudden getting better is not. A .280 hitter isn't gonna turn into a .400 when the game is on the line, but a .280 could turn into .200 when he's tensed up.
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Haha, did you catch the Infield Fly Rule discussion last night as well? You mean when Muncy inexplicably didn't drop that pop up? Are you referring to the IGT? IGT thread that the rule should not exist. I remember Smoltz saying that though, he was right on it. Just very tough for someone to think that quickly.
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Haha, did you catch the Infield Fly Rule discussion last night as well?
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They seem to value Moose's D at 3rd well above Shaw's. If that holds true, With Miley pitching Moose will be at 3rd due to the grounders.
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While I agree overall that when you know a single scores a run, just do all you can to hit oppo. If that means moving back from the plate a bit, choking up etc do what you have to do. The main thing I wanted to point out is that when shifted like that they also pitch you to it, as in their jamming everything inside thus making it hard to go oppo. So it's harder than it seems. That's why I mentioned moving away from the plate. For the clutch talk. I think what I've seen over the years is that there isn't necessarily a clutch aspect but more of an anti-clutch. As in, pressure can legit cause tensing up and choking. But there isn't really anything legit that someone does better in the clutch. hope that makes sense. So being 'clutch' is just being your normal self.
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Well Braun Cain Jesus and Yeli are all very good vs lefties. So theoretically this all should have been balanced well. But yea they're all scuffling right now at the worst time except Braun
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How ironic for him to carry us into the postseason to pretty much be a dumpster fire to knock us out. That’s postseason baseball for you. The whole opinion of a player changes by how they perform in postseason. He's taken his walks still. And remember game 1 vs Rox he carried them. And even last night found a way to claw his way on base. But really when is the last time he drove anything in the air. Everything is a dribbler right now. Hope he busts out the next few games at the perfect time.
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would be nice if Yeli could remember how to hit the ball in the air again.
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well they had their chances early, we had ours late. Who knows what's gonna happen.
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No its not, it is in play with only R2 and R1. The batter would have plenty of time to get to first I see what you mean, I phrased bad. but exactly. it only applies if there is a guy on first and second or more. Not when it's only on first. So that you can't drop a pop up and turn into a DP by messing with the players. It's a complete no brainer rule and undebateable. Why are you allowed to turn a DP on a ground ball but not a flyball? so you advocate that when bases are loaded that the D should be allowed to fake their gonna catch and then turn a double or triple play. Have fun with that BS. You will be the only vote in the world on that side of the argument
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No its not, it is in play with only R2 and R1. The batter would have plenty of time to get to first I see what you mean, I phrased bad. but exactly. it only applies if there is a guy on first and second or more. Not when it's only on first. So that you can't drop a pop up and turn into a DP by messing with the players. It's a complete no brainer rule and undebateable.
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HAdn't opened this in a while and came iinto an argument about infield fly rule. Wow, can't believe that's even debatable. It's not to prevent a DP, it's to prevent a triple play. cmon. just get one here and get outta here
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We've been crazy lucky on wild pitches the last month or so, I'll take another
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So no 20 minute analysis of Roberts using 3 pitchers to get through the 7th inning of a tie game?
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Minimum getting the guy to 3rd or a walk. Cain is so due and he'll be facing a lefty. I'll take my odds there