MadThinker88

Cleveland and Jose Ramirez make it clear he is going nowhere.. This is the 2nd extension Ramirez signs with CLE. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2026/01/guardians-close-to-extension-with-jose-ramirez.html#comments

I suspect that the pending labor dispute (after the 2026 season) will impact the thinking of many clubs and players. Many players might see this as a final chance to cash in big before the landscape changes. Many clubs might be wary of spending too much if labor dispute (lockout or strike) wipes out a chunk of the 2027 season...

Just FYI - if Jacob M finishes in top 3 of the NL RoY voting this year he gets credit for a full year of service time in 2025 (not just the time of call up to the end of the year). That was what happened with Tanner Bibee in CLE back in 2023. IMHO - both sides need to know if he finishes the year in the top 3 of RoY voting (or not) as that impacts the math and how Free Agent much time is being bought out with any extension. Additionally you also want to see how much "prize pool" money Jacob gets. One of the reasons OF Steven Kwan has declined extension overtures in CLE is he has gotten extra monies each year due to winning Gold Gloves and making the All-Star team. Working in MKE favor - the upcoming end to the CBA. There have been rumblings that contract structure and contract limits could be happening with the next CBA (and likely work stoppage). Some players (like the aforementioned Bibee) have signed pre-arb extension deals to have the security in place before this CBA expires..

The 1899 Cleveland Spiders of the National League are starting to take notice. Feel free to research the Spiders but here is a short synopsis: 20-134 over 154 game season. Club finished the season playing home games in the "away" parks as they couldn't draw anyone to come watch the poor play. As for the "why" the poor play, the owners also got involved in the St. Louis Cardinals ownership. Spiders were strip-mined of any talent in favor of the Cardinals. Club folded after the year and then an AL club got placed in the city (eventually called Indians then Guardians).

Sorry, I don't share your optimism to get that much back (part in bold above) in a return package.. The valuations for trade to be done has changed quite a bit over the years. I could see a single top 100 plus another piece or two depending on how close to the majors those pieces are.

MKE will get a greater return for Peralta if he is dealt before this deadline then waiting for the offseason as the acquiring club has Peralta for 2 tries at the post-season instead of only 1. I get that people don't want to give up on this season & a possible chance at the post-season but sometimes the better route is to focus on next year & the season after then stubbornly holding onto a slim (& fading) chance in the present. The white flag this year could allow for some of the kids in the minors to get their feet wet in the majors this year so they can do better in 2026 & 2027..

I realize Brewer fans will not like hearing/ reading this but if Freddy P has truly rejected extension talks, then MKE should begin the shopping process NOW and look to have him dealt @7/1/25. Getting him moved sooner than the deadline helps to inflate the value as the acquiring team gains an extra 4 to 5 starts (compared to waiting for end of July/ trade deadline).

Thanks for the clarifications. Honestly I forgot the Brewers had included its Comp Pick in the deal with Boston earlier this year To clarify my point from earlier: unlike other sports where picks can be dealt multiple times and even re-acquired by the original team, the baseball Comp picks dealt cannot be dealt a 2nd time (even going back to the original team that sent it away),

unless I'm missing something, Boston doesn't get a competitive balance pick and if Boston did acquire one in trade from someone else, that pick is unable to be dealt a 2nd time...

IMHO Highly doubtful. The QO cost for this year was $21M & that number will go up with larger contracts being signed (Soto, Fried). Lets be conservative and suggest its only $22M next off-season. Can you see this ownership & FO spending $66M for three 1 year offers? Even if free agency is an option, would all 3 players turn that down?? Remember, by rule a player can only be subject to a QO 1 time during their career & some clubs do not pursue those players with a rejected QO that year. Some players have accepted a QO because they know their entry in free agency will be better/ easier if they dont have to deal with that tag attached.

Only surprise for me was team he signed with...

That was my understanding as well. If healthy enough now I have to wonder if there were a couple of underlying problems for him with the way CLE did things. He is a master of getting the most out of his club & makes Cinci a much bigger threat to win the NL Central division title in at least 2025 & 2026.

There are reports that the Reds are hiring Terry "Tito" Francona to be their next manager. Announcement to be on Friday 10/4/24 If true, this make the division a lot tougher for the Crew moving forward...

Just coming by to chime in on the move. Civale can be very inconsistent at times. He would go a few starts looking to be on par with teammate Shane Bieber and then not make it out of the 3rd inning for a start or 2. Fun note: Civale and Bieber were taken in the same draft by CLE (Civale in the 3rd round of 2016 and Bieber in the 4th round). I wish Civale well, but it seems MKE will need to do some work with him to get back to the "good Civale". Former local MLB pitcher Brian Anderson does a weekly Friday interview segment with one of the CLE sportstalk radio stations. Currently Brian is doing TV color analysis for Tampa Bay so since Civale was a former CLE pitcher in Tampa, the trade came up & was discussed. 1st: Brian noted there was no rumbling of the Civale deal in advance. Normally they pick up something, but this time was pure silence. That suggests it came together very fast. 2nd: Tampa was targeting Barrios as the trade return. They feel he is a likely major league regular (not player, but regular) in 3 years. 3rd: Tampa has a couple more pitchers beyond Shane Baz returning from injury this month so Tampa might be open to moving 1 or 2 more starting pitchers this month,

I get where your coming from and can agree with your general premise. The exemption to my understanding is Mr Wrong Call Angel H. He has so many blatantly wrong calls & bad mistakes over the years that he is making a mockery of the profession & his continued employment is a stain upon the rest of the group.