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  1. Yeah but the economics of baseball are such that right when we expect t to start competing Nelson is going to start getting expensive. He will also be approaching 30 by then (he's about to turn 27), which is usually when players start to decline in health and/or performance. I like Nelson and I'm certainly not on the trade him now bandwagon. But he's not untouchable, nor should he be.
  2. Yeah but don't forget if we trade him we get stuff back. Ideally if you trade Nelson you get at least two prospects that can be just as good, or better, than Nelson. I'm fine with hanging onto him because I think he can still increase his trade value. But if you can get two pitching prospects with #2 potential, ideally at A+ ball or higher, I'd seriously consider it.
  3. I'm seeing a lot of Groome to Atlanta talk if Philly passes on him, which is looking more and more likely. Puk may be Phillys pick which leaves me to hope Pint is still around.
  4. I agree with this. While the odds of our pick turning into an ace are slim you still have to try. The likelihood of getting an ace may be low but it's still higher than getting one after the first or second round. I know it's hardly scientific but I just glanced at the best pitchers in terms of ERA so far this year. Almost all of them are either first round picks, second round picks, or international FAs. That kind of mirrors our success with developing above average to good pitchers. Sheets (first round) Gallardo (second round) Nelson (second round) and to a much lesser extent Peralta (FA) and Jungmann (first round), plus still a fair amount of hope for Williams (second) Medeiros (first) Kirby (comp) and Lopez (second). So while our pitcher development has been ok lately, it's almost been non existent with guys picked after round 2. I'd like to see high ceiling pitchers picked with at least two of our top three picks, then shoot for position players later.
  5. curious what others top five lists look like I'd say for me its: 1) Groome 2) Pint 3) Puk 4) Perez 5) Senzel I just can't get excited over another outfielder and an electric arm like Groome or Pint would bring another exciting pitching prospect to follow.
  6. I hope they don't settle for another high floor guy. Not saying Hudson isn't good but his ceiling isn't as high as a Pint or a Groome. I want to see them go for the home run. My top 3 are still Groome, Pint then Puk, with Lewis#4 probably.
  7. Texas has so many guys that I'd take, but I'd like to focus on pitching. Tate, Ortiz and Matuella. I'd like two of those three back for Lucroy straight up.
  8. I wonder why Lopez is making mechanical adjustments after the year he had last year. Also, good to see Devin Williamaking his debut soon.
  9. It's a chance they need to take, assuming he's available. I'd be more concerned if it's something like drugs, but if it's something like losing his temper or throwing fits when he loses I think it's something hes likely to grow out of. We need a top of the line pitcher and he seems to be the best shot in this draft. Without revealing your sources can you at least tell us what they said?
  10. I like Jeffress and don't want to see him go but it makes little sense to keep him long. I agree the offseason is probably the best time to move him. Let him build up some more value first. Closers are the most overrated position in baseball. If someone is willing to give up a solid prospect or two for Jeffress Id take it.
  11. My wife and I went to see the new Captain America movie tonight. $20 for two tickets. Not terrible but still a little pricey. 2 minutes before the movie starts a large group comes in. Looked like 3 adults, a teen, two younger kids maybe 8 or 9...........and two infants, clearly under one. When they walked past us my wife and just looked at each like "wonderful". Sure enough within five minutes of the movie starting one of the infant starts doing what an infant does. Whines. Cries. Makes cute, but loud, little baby noises. Everyone in our section is annoyed as hell. You can tell by how often everyone turns around to look. Finally one of the adults takes the kid out. Then the other one starts. Crying. Whining. Fussing. Goes on for at least 20 minutes. Theater staff actually had to ask them to leave. I don't blame the kid obviously because they don't know better but who the hell brings two infants with them into an adult movie? Is it necessary to ruin it for everyone else because you can't find or can't afford it just don't want to get a sitter? And are you really so dense that you can't tell when you are annoying the crap out of everyone?
  12. We did try the develop elite hitters but no pitchers strategy a little while a go. It got us 2 playoff appearances and one division title over a six or seven season period, and only then because in both years we traded for a Cy Young caliber pitcher. I know it's tough but in order for the Brewers to have sustained success they HAVE to obtain, either through the draft or trade, young talented pitching. An all offense no pitching team is not going to win year in year out and we cannot afford to sign multiple elite free agent pitchers like the Cubs can. Our best bet, I think, is to develop a group of average to above average position players with an all star sprinkled in there, team them with a solid group of young pitchers and then break the bank for one top of the rotation free agent starter. Then you have to recycle the talent. You can't hang on to them for too long and have them lose all their value.
  13. How does one teach someone to pitch to contact? Seems as though that's what Hader needs to learn how to do.
  14. I didn't say they should never do it again. I'm talking about this year. This year they need as big an impact player as you can get. When they did it before, back when they still trying to build up depth in the system, it was a better time to do it. But now we have depth. What we don't have are high impact players. It's hard to imagine a player they graded at 90 lasting til pick 46. But even if it would happen id still rather they pick the 97 than the 94 in round one, mostly because it's so much easier to get a 94 then a 97. Look I'm not disagreeing with you that it's an option. I just think this is a terrible time to go value. You go value when you need depth. You go value when you want to save money. But when you are completely tearing it down and have a pretty deep system with a lot of good but not great prospects I think you have to go impact. Take the opportunity to get that great prospect.
  15. I never said Correa wasn't quality. I never said anything about him at all as a matter of fact. Looking back he may be the best player in that draft. It worked out well for them, especially considering McCullers was one of the guys they got with the saved money. But as I did say we seemed to do it with Medeiros. It was a value pick when higher rated guys were available and, while its still early it doesn't seem to be working out quite as well for us. Gatewood and Harrison still seem to be over their heads in A ball and Medeiros has taken a step back early on this year. So just because it worked out for Houston doesn't mean it will work for us. Our system lacks true high ceiling guys and id rather get the best player available at 5, preferably a pitcher, because we need impact.
  16. I'm all for Thornburg moving to the rotation but I think that ship has sailed. He had the results but it seems the organization was more interested in projections than results
  17. We did that a few years ago when we took Medeiros and then Gatewood and Harrison. Obviously there's still a long time before we can judge the picks but none of those guys are exactly setting the world on fire so far. I know I wanted Grant Holmes that year. He was the higher rated player and his career appears to be off to a better start than Medeiros. Not saying Medeiros was a bad pick but it seems like it was a value pick. I think at 5 we have to go quality. We don't need depth. We need impact.
  18. If the house belonged to your dad and is now yours, and she does not pay rent, does she even have a right to be there? Change the locks next time she leaves?
  19. It seems to me that Doug Melvin preferred to extend guys as opposed to flipping them. He seemed to think "Why would I trade them if they are good now?" That was my biggest beef with Melvin. Couldn't seem to think more than a year or two down the line. When I think "flip" I think bringing in guys with zero value and then immediately trading them after a year or two when they actually gain value. I think Podsednik was a good flip but I think we missed chances on guys like Mcgehee, Axford and Turnbow. This year Chris Carter seems like an ideal flip candidate. We will just have to see how Stearns approaches it.
  20. I understand the concern on Pint but if it were me I'd take the chance. He'd immediately become probably our third best pitching prospect behind Hader and Lopez but he easily have the highest ceiling. Our system has decent pitching depth but lacks true high ceiling guys. And you only have so many chances to get a guy with as high a ceiling as Pint. With likely top ten choices the next few years we really have an opportunity to get afew guys with ace like potential. And we haven't developed someone like that since Ben Sheets! We are loaded at outfield and have depth at SS, which makes it easier for me to pass on guys like Perez, Ray, and Rutherford and Lewis. I just think given the state of the franchise you have to start taking more chances on pitching and hope you can find someone that knows how to develop them. That said, my preferences in order are Groome, Pint and Puk then probably Lewis Perez and Rutherfurd.
  21. Yeah but for a rebuild to be successful you still need high level prospects you can look to build around. We can all name the position players that are high level guys we plan on building around (Arcia, Phillips, Clark, Santana, Nottingham, etc). Who are the pitchers we are going to build around? Lopez, whose struggling mightily in AAA, Hader, who can barely make it through five innings and.........????? Face it, guys like Jungmann, Davies, and Nelson were/are part of the plan. Only Nelson seems like he's figured it out. We have nobody who projects as a #1. Nobody who projects as a #2. Maybe a few #3s but mostly back end guys. Good depth, but no aces. And yeah we'll get good picks but that certainly doesn't guarantee anything. I was all for the rebuild and I think they did what they needed to do. But with Jungmann, Davies and Peralta struggling so badly it's not looking good. And while Peralta may not be part of the future, at this point flipping him for any worthwhile prospects seems like a pipe dream.
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