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At some point the Brewers need to give their young pitchers a chance. Peralta, Fiers and Nelson all need to be in the rotation next season. I don't care if that means trading Lohse or Gallardo. I am sick of them pushing young starting pitchers into the bullpen or keeping them in Nashville when they don't need to be because they signed 30 year old pitchers to multiyear contracts. Not only could it hurt the development of the pitchers but it takes money away from other areas that badly need to be addressed. We desperately need an answer at first base. And we desperately need an upgrade on the bench, specifically in the infield. Personally I hope they trade either Lohse or Gallardo either for a first basemen or to upgrade the bench. I'm past the point where I think they can get anything significant for either of them but maybe they could at least get some salary relief.

I can't imagine any scenario in which Melvin gets fired. Despite this recent slide even I have to admit the Brewers have probably overachieved this season. I think he really messed up the first base situation and I still don't like the Garza signing but for the most part he's done a solid job. As much as I really, really hate to say this because there is no good way of saying it, the Brewers have an opportunity now to hire a new scouting director that can hopefully do better with the draft. Recent drafts have seemed to improved but Seid seemed to have little luck with later round draft picks and only recently did it seem like he started actually focusing on ceiling as opposed to drafting the more "sure thing" type. The farm system still isn't anywhere close to where it needs to be, although I do think some prospects, particularly Coulter and Arcia, are extremely overlooked by national pundits.

I'm bored and as I'm watching the game right now and hearing them talk about Gallardo about to become the organization's all time leader in strikeouts, I got to wondering about whether or not Gallardo will have his number retired by the Brewers after his career is over. I realize it's probably a little early to make a final decision but I'm wondering what most people think. Assuming the Brewers pick up his option next season, Yo will have played for at least parts of 9 seasons in Milwaukee. He'll be the organization's all time strikeout leader. Barring a major injury, he'll also likely be the leader in games started. He'll probably finish third, maybe second in career wins. Top five in innings pitched and probably top 5 in ERA. He was an all-star in 2010 and won a silver slugger that year as well. Is this enough to get his number retired?

If Wojo gets both Heldt and Ellenson, unless I am forgetting someone, Wojo will have signed as many 6'10'' or taller HS seniors in one class as Buzz and Crean did in the past 10 years combined (O'Tule and Mbao, who was with the team for one season and barely played). Their lack of ability to recruit quality big men always drove me nuts. It's a nice change already.

I'm hearing conflicting reports on this Dudley deal. Did the Bucks acquire a future first round pick or did they trade a future first round pick?

Isn't Parra going to be back next season too? I think an outfield of Davis, Gomez, Braun, Parra, Schafer is a strong outfield both offensively and defensively.

It's a shame about Thornburg. I really thought he'd have a shot at the rotation this season but low and behold he was relegated to the bullpen. After being out this long it seems like surgery is inevitable. I wouldn't be surprised to see him miss all of 2015.

I don't want to turn this into a Jason Rogers thread but now that Hunter Morris has had another lost season and pretty much removed himself as "1st basemen of the future" discussion I suppose the Brewers could always move Rogers back to 1B and let him platoon with a left handed hitter. I see no reason to bring either Mark Reynolds or Lyle Overbay back next season. That would of course mean picking up ARam's option which is probably a given anyway given that all our of third base prospects are at A ball or below.

How is Roger's defense at third? Is he capable of playing 3rd at the major league level? Can we expect continued improvement with more time and practice?

Wow Missouri hates the Red Sox more than the Cubs (or the Brewers for that matter). I guess if you can't beat them hate them. Also shows how pathetic the Cubs have been lately. I have to imagine 5 or 6 years ago both Wisconsin and Missouri would have chosen the Cubs as #1. It's also kind of funny that other than Australia the entire world hates the Yankees.

Trying to figure out why the Dakotas hate the Vikings. Is it because the Vikings claim the states as a market and so good NFL games get blacked out I noticed that too. Also trying to figure out why Arizona and New Mexico hate Pittsburgh.

Late to the party here but I'm not overly thrilled about this. Don't get me wrong. I'm not fretting over losing Haniger but obtaining Parra does nothing for me. Against righties he's hitting .271 with an OBP slightly over .300. Awesome. Defensively he may be an upgrade over Davis but we already have a bench player whose a huge upgrade defensively over Davis (Schafer). I guess it protects us in case of an injury but to me outfield was nearly as important as getting a quality infielder. If Segura goes down we're screwed. It's also kind of sad thinking that the guy we just traded for a 4th outfielder was selected one pick ahead of Joey Gallo, who is currently sitting, I believe, 4th amongst BA's midseason prospect list. I know a ton of us wanted Gallo but for some reason we selected another outfielder. Just reminded me of how "blah" our drafting has been the past few years.

I agree with this and with torts that a 5th starter in 2016 can be added in free agency if they are still viewing themselves as a contender This is my problem with the organizational thinking. For years.....decades....the Brewers were unable to develop any of their own pitching. We went from Ben Sheets to Gallardo to Peralta. That's three good homegrown pitchers in 12 years. In the meantime our rotation consisted of high priced free agents like Suppan, Looper, Lohse, Garza, and Wolf, aces that we've emptied our system for like Sabathia, Greinke, and Marcum, and a whole lot of low ceiling bad pitchers (Santos, Obermueller, Bush, Kinney, Franklin, Rusch, Ohka, Vargas, Narveson, and so on). Now we finally have some homegrown talent ready for a shot at starting in the major leagues, namely Nelson and Thornburg.......and we are talking about trading them for a year and a half of an ace? The point of me bringing up 2016 is that without Nelson and Thornburg we are back to our usual one homegrown pitcher with the remaining 4 coming from free agency or a trade. While it's certainly not the end of the world, it does cost money or players to get those pitchers. Signing multiple free agents makes you less likely to sign the superstar. And trading away prospects, even lower ceiling prospects, hurts depth and you have to spend additional money on bench guys. We may never be able to afford a David Price or a Clayton Kershaw, but if we handle our finances right we could get someone a step lower. In 2016, for instance, Jordan Zimmerman is a FA. Maybe we could make a run at him. Or they could have made a run at Lester or Shields this off season if they had given Smith or Thornburg a shot at the rotation instead of signing Garza. Because we don't have any in-house options for the rotation we end up spending money to get the #2-#4 type pitcher, which is exactly what will happen again in 2016 when Price leaves. Either we'll have to pony up for a 37 year old Lohse or an already losing it Gallardo or we'll have to spend money or players on someone else. As far as flipping Price in the offseason that's not Melvin's M.O. He won't move Price until, at the earliest, next trade deadline if we are out of it.

1. Price 2. Lohse 3. Peralta 4. Gallardo 5. Garza Yikes that's a scary rotation. Yes it is but what's that rotation going to look like in 2016 when Price Lohse and Gallardo are all gone?

I thought the whole season was rushed, with too many sub-plots going on. Terrorists, Russinas, and Chinese all packed into one day? Not to mention Chloe's shady hacking group, the chief of staff drama, President's health condition, trying to get the drone program passed on Parliment, it goes on and on. Just too much. Well if you think about the Chief of Staff/Russians/Chinese was essentially one plot as they were working together. They had to include the Russians somehow. You can't have Jack resurface after murdering like 1000 Russians and not expect them to do something about it. They probably could have done without the Chinese but including them allowed Jack to kill probably his biggest enemy and still end up in the hands of the Russians. Plus that whole war threat was what drove the final few episodes. Looking back though I'm not sure what the point of the President's health plot was as in never played a crucial factor in anything.

Overall I thought it was a pretty good season. With only 12 episodes they didn't have to waste a lot of time with stupid subplots. Not surprised they killed off a main character but I was a little surprised it was who it was (save the spoiler there). I was not happy with the ending though. Considering it is likely the series finale I would have liked a little more closure as opposed to them doing what they did, which would have led perfectly into a new season. You can't leave that much speculation in a series finale.

Yeah I know it's REALLY early but for Holmes 6 IP 1 hit 1 walk 9 K's. I hope Gatewood and Harrison make selecting Medeiros ahead of Holmes worth it.

RHP Jimmy Nelson will start for the #Brewers on Saturday vs. St. Louis. RHP Marco Estrada to the bullpen. It's about time. I hope we never see Marco Estrada start another game for Milwaukee.

Who really could the Bucks really expect to get though? Don't laugh at me but I'd really like to see Ray Allen back in Milwaukee. I admit at this point it'd be more of a PR move but the Bucks do need backcourt help and Ray Allen was a fan favorite when he was here. It's not like we are competing for a championship or anything. And maybe he could help out as a mentor to some of the younger guys.

If the Brewers aren't comfortable with Morris at 1B, when it is an obvious need, I doubt any other team would want him there either... The Brewers and the Rockies are in completely different situations. The Brewers are in the middle of a pennant race and may not be able to give a rookie like Morris a chance. The Rockies, on the other hand, are going nowhere. They'd save about $10 million by moving Morneau if you include the buyout in his option year. Morris may not be a top level prospect but he's got good power and hits for an ok average. He's exactly the kind of player Colorado could afford to take a chance on. Hell if Milwaukee were out of it this season Morris would certainly be given a chance in September here. As far as JDLR. I want nothing to do with him. We already have a guy in AAA that is pitching well enough to be in the rotation now. We don't need one more roadblock in front of him.

Would something like Jungmann and Rogers or Morris be enough to grab Morneau? That's a deal I'd make.

Lasry mentioned a list of 6 possible locations for a new arena. And he's meeting with some people about 3 or 4 different arena designs today. I'm glad he's moving forward. I think people will be more willing to get on board if they see what they are getting. That being said, the $350-$400 million estimate seems a little low. I hope they don't build an inferior arena just to get one done. People whine and moan about the Miller Park tax but the fact is over 10 years later Miller Park is still one of the best stadiums in baseball. The sites listed as possibilities for the arena include 4th/Wisconsin, 2nd/Michigan/MacArthur Square, The Wisc Center corridor (where the US Cellular Arena is), South of the Italian Community Center right by the Summerfest grounds, and immediately north of the current arena.

Any chance the #2 could get us the #3 and Michael Carter-Williams?

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/21/report-cavaliers-leaning-toward-selecting-jabari-parker-with-no-1-pick-in-nba-draft/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs Just for fun another rumor. This one says Cleveland is leaning towards taking Parker first overall. I think that would be ideal for the Bucks. With Parker gone and Wiggins still available you call Philly, tell them you're taking Wiggins and tell them if they want him they can pony up #3 and #10 (maybe swap second rounders to give Philly a little more). They take Wiggins which leaves you plenty of options. Exum or Embiid most likely at 3. Then at 10 you get a SG like Stauskus or Harris or another forward like Gordon, Randle or Saric. And maybe they can even move Sanders to get another lottery pick.

I think this makes it almost certain that Philly trades up to #1. I think that they will now give up the #3 and #10 to Cleveland to get Wiggins, which leaves the Bucks with Parker.