He's not this bad, but I don't really see the upside that others see, either. This isn't Josh Hader stuff. I’m not saying he’s Josh Hader (or ever will be) by any stretch, but I think he can been an okay backend starter or middle reliever. That isn’t exciting, but it also doesn’t deserve being called “garbage”. I know you are trying to be positive but you also seem to like Urias and both of them have been terrible.